The U.S. BR4 needs a bit of gain

Currently, no one enjoys playing U.S. BR4. The 39M is extremely powerful, and the M2A1 is a solid option but far too rare. The ‘Jumbo’ and Sherman 76W struggle against Tigers and Panthers. Alternatively, lowering the M2 Carbine equipped vehicles to BR4 could help.


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M2 is far too powerful for BR4 I think.

I actually dont know what could be added there that makes sense to fill in as a rifle for BR4.

Otherwise tank wise, something like a tech tree Firefly would be really really nice.

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This is an event weapon that can only be used by assault soldiers.More difficult to obtain, with a terrible sight and completely inferior compared to the 39M, what’s so powerful about it?

I mean the Kiraly is really good, but I wouldnt say its better than the M2A1.

The sight of the M2A1 is debatable, but it isnt that bad either.

I mean sure its an event weapon, but that just means veterans benefit more, I mean like I have 6 M2A1’s, that’s more than enough for a full assaulter squad, that’s kinda broken.

Not to mention stat wise, the M2A1 trumps the 39M, like the only upside I think with the 39M is the magazine size.

to be fair i dont think anybody enjoys BR4 from any country because its pretty much only uptiers

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m2a1 carbine has 0.20 dispersion and kiraly has 0.70 dispersion, not to mention the m2a1 has better damage and bullet velocity

do i need to say anything more…?

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which is a shame since BR4 has so many fun and cool items in it, its just ruined by the fact that BR5 is so completely broken in balance.

Like fighting BR4 while BR3, is almost fun Id say, but fighting BR5 as BR4 is downright torture.

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while in reality it has:

superior dmg (8.8 vs 7.9)
superior dmg drop off (6.8 vs 4.0 at 100m)
better recoil
better muzzle velocity
much lower dispersion

Only cons are sights and 10 less rounds. It’s too powerful for BR4 just like Feddy “MG” and Hei “LMG”

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Not a single faction main, whatever the faction, enjoys playing br4 atm.

Not just allies. All.

It’s a shame because for many factions, br4 has pinnacle ww2 stuff (br5 is mostly protos except for axis I suppose)

Br+/-0 . The dream.

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Honestly I think the early STG’s could go down to BR4 as a nice German bonus.

But yeah, BR5 should really be +/-0

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every br should be +/- 0 for this to work…

It is a shame because br5 axis is all ww2 stuff that got used and well documented… while other factions br5 are mostly made of protos.

but… br must not discriminate. Should only be about the strength of the tools, and never about history or something.

Maybe mkb42h could be br4 because it’s rather just ok… but ppsh41 should also be I suppose (in all good old ww2 games, ppsh41 is always the counterpart of stg family) But as tools br goes, I won’t have a too strong opinion as long as it’s fair (unlike bumping up bf110G2, which isn’t). I just wish for br+/-0

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I would like the US to add the Johnson rifle with a detachable magazine to 4BR in TT. Because, after transferring the regular Johnson rifle to 3BR, there is now nothing there.
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Can you use M2A1 for long-range shooting? Using that terrible sight? Do you know that your words are just a joke.

Are German main players only like long-distance camping? Even weapons like M2, which perform quite poorly at long distances, can be considered better by you?

Only madmen would expect to use M2 for long-range shooting.

Can you point out where I said the M2A1 should be used like a sniper rifle for long range fights? The M2A1 is significantly better at medium range fights due to the massive dispersion difference compared to the kiraly. I have no issue with the ironsights, if you can’t use them then that is a skill issue on your part

Your opinion on the matter is ridiculously foolish

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Well T20 makes M2 kinda obsolete anyways - so turning it into a assaulters weapon and lowering it to BR4 doesn’t sound like a bad idea.

Shooting 15.8 damage twice, Kiraly still has a long enough advantage range, which makes it not inferior to M2A1. In addition, it has a larger magazine and a better sight. It’s foolish to be afraid of being defeated by M2A1 while possessing Kiraly, It seems that your skills are even worse.

If M2A1 can be BR4, then STG and AS can too, but I don’t think that anyone would want that

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0.9 dmg differency & 2.2dmg differency at 100m “not much of issue”

pps having 0.2 dmg less than mp40 then again is end of the world.

I like how you are completely objective and not at all biased.

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For these two guns, engaging at a distance of 50m is enough. I don’t know what kind of idiot would be willing to use this weapon to camp at a distance of 100m.
Don’t you think it’s ridiculous to ask such a question?