The so-called "splitting player groups" is a false proposition

then you are probably dumber than we expected.

if you think a video can help you to improve, you are quite mistaken.

people get better through practice. and practice creates masters.

what i find even more “funnier”, is your overstatement:

Now since that’s been properly addressed with my amazing perception and problem solving skills can you please stop ruining my favourite video-game with skill issue forum proposals ?

as it raises more question than actual answers, but i won’t dive in this shit show as it takes literally minutes to dubunk it that does not matter for this topic.

but i’ll say this much, i have no idea how people asking for a pve will somehow even " ruin " your “favorite” game.
which, to the next point, whether you like it or not, you are not the only playing this game. therefore, people have all rights to make suggestions.

so… instead of mumbling, you could actually start a conversation on why it shouldn’t be the case.
or why… would hipotetically " ruin " your fun within the game.

but you are not that smarter than you believe when it comes to problem solving. because the PVE community would actually laugh at that.

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Quite sure you can practice medicine long as u want and all you would became is a serial killer unless someone taught you what to do.

Well no, it doesnt. But takes by far more resources than lets say tutorial video.

The fk is pve community ?

that’s quite a straw argument, but sure.

locking a team to full bots is more resourches?

literally modders can do it with the editor in less than a minut.

you have no idea what you are talking about.

great…

the people that do not want to play pvp. or others that aren’t enjoyers of tryharders and other bs.

you’re welcome.

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Trying wont really hurt.

Well anyone can make a simple utube video explaining what radio for example does. While the DF has managed to fail to do quite many tasks that requires nothing else than switching few numbers.

Yeah, thats why we have totally working bipods, HE not working on fair share of surfaces.
And ofc the penetration has been “fixed” so well that not only HMG’s dont penetrate thru walls but nothing does.

Yeah theres your DF editors that could do the task your asking in just few minutes.

Never heard of such but I wish you best of luck.

Should have been a pve game in the first place if you ask me

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Whether I get somewhat what you mean, 70% of content creator “ advises “ are simply trash. And majority of people do not look up even for those.

Therefore they usually sit back, camp a bit and enjoy the game as they can. Beside, not everyone is interested in becoming better. ( sure, hard to believe, until you meet them, have conversations with them, or actually face them ).

Which yes, they have failed to deliver on many aspects, but I don’t think they will failed on pve if we ask them nicely :wink:.

“ jokes aside “ pve is quite important as it would bring a new influx of players from those who simply cannot enjoy enlisted on a fast phase and wants to takes things slowly. Which, in case you failed to realize, the pve in enlisted can be a gigantic source of income. For a few reasons. One and foremost, matches somewhat fast. Meaning that if you want to make more XP’s, you are gonna need premium or boosters,p or even squads. As those can be and are also effective in pve. but it will not surpass the amount of xps in mp.

So… I can already see you asking why on earth should someone play those instead of mp. But I’m confident you can reach that conclusion on your own.
( avoid playing against tryharders, play without having the level gap between players, having a bad connection but still don’t be a nuisance for his/her team. And or just want to play enlisted for fun. )

I failed to see the connection.

But I can interpret that does do not make them earn money, idk.

But that’s not how the editor works. Hence why I said you don’t know what you are talking about.
Meaning that if a player can do it in mods, so can devs.

Once again, you’re full of fart… ( no offense of course )

But what you struggle to understand, is that, for us modders, the editor is not designed for pve, but we have found a workaround to make pves.

As we make pves, you are entirely missing the point as usual.

Because I can make ( as I am, and keep making ) pves, those do not earn shit in term of XP’s.
And missing out on so many others players that could play enlisted, and enrich the title with more transaction and what not.

But if you don’t see it, or refuse to understand, I’m not sure you ever will.
Point is, devs have the tools do it. Not like the editor where this take a few min.

But behold.
I am working on a giant concept idea about it.

Problem is, is when I’m gonna release it…

I guess in a few years as it’s taking me ages to make all the stuff I need, record, etc.

But, to conclude and remain in the thread and our “ conversation “,

This doesn’t surprise me that you don’t.

But it’s not lack that we need. It’s just literally creating a new playlist with locking the opponents team from bots, and recognize the players selected team to match them with other.

I don’t think it should take too much effort to make it, but I can guarantee on the money that this action would bring. And I’m not talking about a “ simple “ change to make people buy premium and stuff, but appealing to a new whole target of audience is entirely different.

But you do you.

Beside, won’t really change that much to you either.

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Its still something done, compared to current situation of not doing anything at all.

Such tutorial would only explain the functions / objects of the game.

Ah in that case, got to remember just ask nicely next time when we suggest to fix something that has been broken for 2 years.

So you already have your “PVE” mode so what exactly are you asking here ?

Yet the devs have failed to make so many simple “switching number” fixes.

Sounds super fun, full enemy team of actual players & own team full of bots. Definitely sounds like PVE.

Yea, we thought it wouldnt take much of effort to alter HMG penetration and keep the rest same.
How wrong we were.

Obviously ive heard the theres entirely new e-sports being build around PVE enlisted.

No not really, but id prefer them to fix on actual issues already present to the game.
After that you can have PVE, Cat herding, christmas truce of 1914 and what ever the fk mods you wish.

that’s not true. it’s not really they are not doing anything. there are tutorials in the game. just not up to date every time.

but it’s not like you gave much input regarding those or improvements so…

what ?

that’s the joke. innit.

struggling with simple sentences?

i don’t know know what to tell you. honestly.

read it again. maybe if you try hard enough, you can make an attempt to understand.

that is correct.

yeah. it is by definition.

and some people are willing to do that. so less complains in matches regarding players that are not good enough.
so, they can practice or have their own place in this sort of playlist.

is it really that hard to comprehend?

i don’t really see negatives to it.

idk.

that doesn’t concern us as most of these are community hosted by externals.

which, what people want, is simply a pve gamemode.

which for how much you blind want to be, it is an actual issue present in the game.

it affects players, and from the long run, the game it self.

so… the first we get a pve, the less problems are gonna be for first of all alot of people and have a better flow for many matches.

you ovviusly never played one to understand the issue so… i don’t really know why you put your nose on stuff that you don’t understand.

amusing nevertheless.

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Oh yeah, that tutorial. That teaches the buttons but literally tells nothing actually valuable about the game such as importance of radios.

You just said you keep making pve’s so why the fk your asking developers to do it ?

What did I not understand ?

A) You just said you do them and you keep doing them so what is the problem here ?
B) As devs clearly are incapable of doing minor fixes to the game, yeah I do see this “PVE” of yours as waste of nonexistent resources.

Which according to you, you already have ?
I havent seen a single person asking for a PVE mod to the game but rather a matchmake to play without the bots.

So yeah, making a “game mode” to please you and perhaps 2 other people is pretty much waste of nonexistent resources.

Again, this is honestly first time Ive ever seen anyone actually to ask a PVE mode. Il exclude that one soviet who was asking a mode of pavlov & hes best buddies where he could mow down germans while dualwielding 2 maxim MG’s.

Yeah, if not daily then atleast weekly ppl is asking for matchmake to reduce bot games.
This is yet again first time ive ever seen someone to ask PVE bot game.

So wasting resources to please you and perhaps 2 others ?
Yeah, maybe when the other issues of the game has been fixed.
Untill that you can do those PVE custom games ? And enjoy your PVE.

to make it official?

duh?

can’t tell if you are dumb on purpose, or what.

that you can’t gain shit from it?

that you can’t earn shit from it.

and it’s not an official way.

we can only speculate. but i can tell you that it’s not really wasting as it brings more people and money to the title so.

if you don’t see reason, it’s a your problem. not everyone elses.

and there’s the opposite.

if you struggle to find threads which there are alot of them, sounds like your problem.

try to look better the next time.

without counting of pleasing many more to comes, yeah, not a good argument from you. but as far as i can see, it’s becoming common.

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you truly are dumber than i thought.

which once again as it brings more people, you should really reconsider your ideas.

what’s worse, is lacking of argument and inability to continue a conversation.
based on your feelings.

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Like, why ? Theres literally like 2 others seriously asking for this including you.

Wow, really ? Farming ez bots dont give the same exp as u get from regular matches ? Im baffled.

What people ? You and the 1 or 2 others who are asking for it ?
Yeah there is actually games with PVE and alot of people that enjoy it.
Now lets see what those PVE games has
a ) Properly functioning AI
b ) some sort of boss fights etc to keep the endless bot grinding intresting

And in enlisted we have neither. Ofc you could include something like this

as “boss” to your beloved PVE but really even starfish hitler wouldnt bring anymore than 1 or 2 players.

I genuinely enjoy reading how you speak of this PVE like it was something requested by millions.
While even now, you are the onlyone here asking for it with incredible credentials.

“Oh im modder, so I know what this game & players need. Did I already mention im modder btw ? Oh you fool ordinary players, cant even breath same air with such dummies brb need to inhale good ol vintage 2015 canned modders fart just so I can even continue this conversation. Its so hard to be modder, did I mention im modder ?”

Yeah, 2 suggestion made by you.
Few another made by someone who has anime in avatar.
And couple cyrillic suggestions that can be disregarded just like suggestions made with anime avatar.

And few topics about how the game unfortunately turns in PVE fairly often due to broken matchmake.

What people ? Who the fk in theyr right mind would deliberately come to enlisted to shoot probably worst AI ever made ?
Sure I grant that after few years its quite clear enlisted doesnt exactly draw players with high IQ but where the fk your going to find a significant amount of such dummies that they would come to enlisted only for PVE ?

Well only one of us seems to have love affair to this PVE.
Like really just for a second think rationally most retarded AI in history of online games and you think that would draw alot players to it ?
Really ?

It depends on the content on those video tutorials. Some ideas for the videos to teach are
-build rallies (they help win)
-use arty not directly on the cap point but slightly behind it to kill enemy reinforcements
-use flamethrowers in enclosed spaces
-dont quit, sometimes an enemy may capture the first few points quickly but then get stopped
-mark enemies (please do this)

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ah yes, over more than 50 results, " l i k e 2 o t h e r s s e r i o u s l y a s k i n g f o r t h is "

:clown_face: .

if you would have at least 2 braincells and the capability of reading. you would know that’s not what we asked.

and we never claimed we should have made the same xps so…

i’m wondering how lower will you get.
i suppose there isn’t a limit for that.

the thousants more.

be blind all you want, it won’t change anything.

which looking back, even devs said pve will be a thing. i just wished those were a bit sooner. so we can actually get more numbers and theorically, more sales.
( it’s not like enlisted need moneys. but more is always good ).

boss fight? what type of game you think people wants?

you truly speak from your own ass. don’t you.

THAT is baffling.

regarding the properly functioning AI, we’re closer than ever.

they got new loadouts, they have become smarter and etc. still enough of a challenge for the averange joe where he can fight back. and don’t need alot of equipment to compete against players like my self with tigers and others newer toys.

which, what people tends to forget, you included, is that even if you would get a matchmaker based on skills it still wont solve you much.

have fun tryharding with people that will plays in the worst human possible ways.
i ain’t and many others aren’t interested.

which ““sorry”” to say this, but you aren’t the voice of god that can only be heard. there are others. as you are not the only one play things game.

the sooner you get it, the better will be for your self.

now, i would be a fool or blind if i would negate the fact that we are missing vehicles, or their inability ( of ais ) to deal against enemy tanks. and you would be correct.

but it’s not like they can’t use AA controlled by AIs, or land mines to keep tankers on their toes and coop with each other.

but, i am going to give you the benefict of the doubt as people don’t… really often explains what they want.

so, to give hint about what i’ll be working and proposed.

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which all this cool wall of text, to say that there are many pve gamemodes that can be made for all type of taste.

creates challenges to be somewhat on par to the multiplayer one, or in some occasions, don’t have to.
( be it because you don’t have much time, and don’t wanna start a PVP for then leave )

or play some fully fledge historical campaings with others teammates, or want to play some dynamic campaigins etc ( which wouldn’t be very duable in mutiplayer. and very similar to the war thunder ones. and i guess also Ro2 )

unfortunately, can’t dive further about my suggestion and the point hinted above, because i’m still creating all the script, the texts, making the levels in the editor and have to record all the cinematics and stuff to give an actual idea or depict it.
a bit hard due to time issue and many others factors.

but i ain’t gonna let some random that has no interest nor understand the concept bash others idea with no actual valid arguments.

because not everyone elses chose to do so.

but i’m not them.

and just because i speak out, doesn’t mean others would not.

given the title of the thread, i could start from that on why not many people joins regarding the PVE concept, but on the proposition of it self which it’s kinda… unrelated. but another story for another time.

that’s quite a lecture of projection.

but sure. i’m willing to give my self some credit if i have to.

point is, if you would be a modder, as much as i can consider my self one, you would know that the things i’m asking, aren’t that impossible if made by devs. ( since literally players can make it. but it’s not official, and some mods i guess included mine, aren’t fully fledged because of the missing tools in order to make them perfect like they should )

and you can insert complaing about HMG, recoil etc here it still won’t change the argument in question.

but, in order to discuss the thread at hands, knowledge won’t hurt you.

instead of " w h o ? o n l y 2. n o . w a s t e d r e s o u r c h e s ".

literally only 3/4 ““arguments/point””.

the same could be said about you if we put it this way.

every message you send could be disregarded.

nice way of thinking lmao.

you sure know how to make a game good, and everyone sure should listen to you.

lol.

what a dumb ass.

which doesn’t take you long to see two steps in front of you and see that a matchmaker still won’t solve much. i’m confident that it will somewhat bring the pve that some are asking, but it won’t be the kind those in favor of matchmaker wants.

but, i admit on my part that is speculation as much as you do not want to admit it on yours.

to start off;

In general terms, PvP is more aggressive and competitive, while PvE encourages cooperation.

which kinda alligns with:

Sure I grant that after few years its quite clear enlisted doesnt exactly draw players with high IQ

as such, people come here to just mindlessly shoot things.
we all fall in the same category. but it then splits in those who actually want a challenge ( PVP ) and others who aren’t really interested to take a step further, and just want to shoot things. hence PVEers.

unlike you, i’m not closed minded and i do see the necessity both for PVP and PVE.
because if you give PVErs “their” place, those " low iqers " will not be in pvp and making some people angry about teammates being bad.
it kinda checks all in place. and yet seems impossible for you to understand.

literally.
there can be 2 places for everyone within the same game.

AW, Warframe, and many more games have both. and warthunder have started to just doing that. ( they will put pve there as well. or so they say ) i don’t see why not in enlisted.

you don’t find them. they come to you.

that’s usually how they work.

nothing that an advertisement or few minutes of research can’t let the target in question knows.

i mean, they have content creators, sites, a youtube channel, social medias and what not.

they are kinda good with them so.

i hardly think it’s gonna be an issue.

which, people are all for cooperation. even better if it’s PVE since there aren’t many about ww2.

no.
i technically couldn’t care less about pve. doesn’t really make much of a difference to me as i keep playing the base game ( otherwise i wouldn’t be here talking with you ). but i simply keep the interest and try to find new ways to make this game better for everyone else and the company.

unlike you, i simply see opportunities and potentiality of gain.

and a “”“risk”"" worth taking.

remember, more: :moneybag:
which also will benefit you on the overall quality of the title.

whether there’s no point in denying their current limitations, they can still pull up a fight for newer levels, and a great first experience for them.

beside the point, i remember this exact same argument from the alpha.
yet here we are months after the OBT that we keep going forward and things keeps changing so.

there’s no limit of improvements. and going foward, slowly but steadely, we will get there.

still doesn’t sounds convincing enough to bash it.

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btw, the starfish hitler is gold.

Woaw, +50 results ? amazing. Considering 2 of the results on your topic are made by you and another 2 made by someone with anime avatar.
Yeah sorry il take my words back theres definitely 3 people not just 2 intrested of this pve of yours.

Tbh you shouldnt get anything else than local psyciathrits phone number for even requesting mode for farming retarded AI.

Yeah comeback with some actual figures of how many actually wants the PVE and how many of them are actually willing to pay for it.
Then we can continue of this.

This is your first game ever isnt it ? Yeah there are PVE games with actual players but what those PVE games has is quite far from what this game has.
Quite simple isnt it ?

Really ? I cant really decided which is more retarded the enlisted AI or people asking mode to grind it.

Smart and enlisted AI doesnt exactly fit in same sentence.

Can be level limited as well, dont take much of effort to not send ppl below level 20 ? to fight with end gear.

And id probably would have fun if we had that matchmake.

Oh im sorry, I thought it was you who said a simple tutorial wouldnt help ( One that takes 0 effort to make )
because ppl are too dumb to find / use it.
As well as saying PVE is something that thousands want while not exactly providing any actual evidence of such.
Sure all this was backed with flawless argument “Im modder” well good for you, its not like anyone could download modding tools and learn it in few hours / days. After all that “modder” title really is something to be envy of. It legitimately qualifies a job from subway for you.

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Its just around the corner when AI is capable of such.

Really ? wow thats great. So I can decide does the AI hit broad side of barn or is it doing 360 noscopes with knife across the map while remaining absolutely retarded ?

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I wish you best of luck but as friendly reminded I wouldnt quit the day job for this.

You dont really need the subway artist degree, I mean modder. To look up what actually succesful PVE games has and rather instantly to figure out what Enlisted doesnt have.

Ah the classic, there surely is thousands of others maybe even millions. But they just arent here. But they could be.

Yeah you deserve it, fantastic “job”.

Nothing is impossible, question is and has been is it worth it ? And the answer is quite simple no.

Penetration darling.

Yes, doing boxes in modding tool definitely qualifies you as game developer very least.
Really, no sarcasm.

You could have atleast searched for such page that aint partially filled by you and the anime avatar, cyrillics no one understands and very least take such example that doesnt include topics about how certain campaigns are becoming PVE which highly speaks against your suggestion.

Just saying.

Except I dont type in cyrillic nor I dont have anime avatar.
I dont make these internet rules im just surprised you dont know them with your modder status.

Well I was actually backing up just the original “tutorial” argument which you decided is waste of time.

Im sorry which one of us was requesting mod to slay absolutely retarded AI ?
With subway artist credentials ?

Its atleast worth the shot to make game pleasurable to majority.
Think positively, if it fails every mod of the game is PVE for you.

You can type “matchmake” to search bar.

Except according to you ppl are too dumb to find out tutorial or even watch a video.
Yet you expect these same dummies to find your PVE mode, which already exists according to you.

Hence the matchmake, it doesnt ask what you want to do. If you are shit your grouped with shit. Its simple as that.

And I never was against your PVE, regardless how retarded it is. Just the time which isnt now as theres quite alot of things to fix in this game and the devs cant afford a single second of theyr hardly working time to nonsense.

And both of the example games has somewhat functional core game to start with hence they have time to do what ever starfish hitler game modes they wish. Enlisted doesnt.

You mean the same people you earlier said could not find a tutorial ?

So tutorial is bad because people cant find it but apparently they could find your pve mode ?
Some double standards much here ?

Alright sure, bring us some actual hard evidence this PVE mode
a) Brings significantly more players to the game
b) Would bring significantly more money to title.

Aka you could decide they cant hit broad side of barn or they would just stab you to head from theyr spawn.
All this while being absolutely retarded.
What a lovely first experience.

Which is exactly why we are no where near of such AI we could speak of intresting PVE.
Since only thing you can alter as we speak is do they hit anything or will they stab you to face from spawn.
All this while being absolutely retarded.

maybe you need a new pair of glasses. it seems.

the irony

perhaps you need a psychiatrist on how to accept others opinions and idea.
but perhaps you are beyond salvation.

but that’s beside the point.

deal with it.

i can continue without it.

it is you who needs it apparently.

it appears you can’t mount or figure out certain things.

but i ain’t. don’t have days to waste with your fallacies.

( also, pay for it? lmao you aren’t right in the head )…

another projection.

funny, but if i wanted to get more projections, or see any, i would have gone to the movie. not with a random over a forum that struggles with simple sentences.

in all honestly.

i don’t think YOU played any pve game to understand one.

you know that playing a game and have fun on it, it’s not grinding it. right?.

the reason why people ask for some xps to gain it’s for the time spending on the game, since you get rewarded for almost everything.

beside, when customs were originally created, that was the case. until some bad actors decide to ruin it for everyone else.

not hard to put caps on exps as they showed. yet, they refused to dive further.

or so you believe.

apparently not.

because it’s not that simple as you might want to believe.

as you your self have various definitions of matchmaking based on “insert magic keyword/s here” and stick with one.

because you unironically can’t figure out a working strategy and still denies the other.

I, on the other hand, is “working” on a different type of issues that can somewhat affect what you are looking for.

but good luck deciding whether the matchmaker should be based on rank, skill system, stats, victories, campaign level and wonder like a toddler in a candy store.

others take matters in their own hand. and give much “simplier” solutions to others issues. which again, having pve somewhat affects on PVP as not experienced players or those who simply just want to relax goes somewhere else not affecting your kind.

i don’t know how many times i will have to say it, and how many others you will fail to realize it.

it’s really that simple.

so… i guess you are allowed to keep wondering about the matchmaker, but let the others that knows what they want have it.

if not, it’s going to be a your problem.

ain’t gonna stop pves to be made after all. ( thankfully )

i don’t think you would.

i dare to say, certainly*

shut it, you’re losing it.

you clearly thought wrong. and can’t even read properly. this is actually funny.

planning on boring me to death today?

because anyone can guarantee you that’s not what i say. twist all the words you won’t, it still won’t help you.
because what i said, was about videos and stuff.

on the other hand, tutorials for newer players are a must. you cannot play if you haven’t done at least the first tutorial.

so… i’m fairly sure even a dumb person can find them.

and you are questiong if people will be able to find pves when we could have a gamemode selector like the current one that we have?

i’m starting to believe that i’m arguing with a child. which would be offensive, but yeah. not much room for discussion as you clearly aren’t able to have valid points outside making them to begin with.

i did, and you refused to dive further.

sorry, but i ain’t gonna waste my time by making every screen about every memeber in favor of it.
you have the tool to make your own research, do that instead.

reminds me of the straw man of argument that " if i don’t see it, it never happened ". i mean, are kinda killing it by using fallacies logic after another in this entire thread, but it’s not even funny at this point.

not sure which tangent you are trying to imply here, but yeah, you shown to everyone that you do not know what you are talking about. so… as someone who uses the instruments and tools that have been given, i can cover topics that i have experiemented and i know about.

being a modder, i can show and fact check the fact that pves can be a thing inside enlisted. and won’t even take too much from devs. but it takes time for modders.

which, if you would be one, you would know it. and not have typed all the bullshit that you try to validate.
but i’m starting to see a pattern here.

i believe it is.

again, modders can create working tanks, i’m sure devs can better than modders ( since they have the whole engine and such ).

but just like pves made from modders, ain’t gonna be much of worth if those cannot be used officially within the game.

similar to tommy’s ( another great modder ) recent topics where he addresses and makes entire systems ( like paradropping, different air strikes, etc ) shows that can be done by singular individuals. but does do not work in customs ( because of limitations ) that goes beyond our will.

so… ais are capable of that if implemented correctly. which it’s about checking a few box, and type a few lines.

no. once again you have proven your ignorance.

and lack of problem solving.

if you would know how ais work within the editor, you would know ( even if you aren’t a mod ) that you can find a compromise.

it’s all about giving values and create profiles for bots where some of them are more accurate, and others not so much. creating a challenge.

you don’t need to be einstein.

so… get your shit and facts together.

i’m probably gonna need it knowing that there are some individuals that thinks ( or rather don’t ) like you.
which speaks out of… i have yet to understand and can’t accept others having different ways of playing or wanting to have fun.

beside, it is a tidious work and a long one.
but again, the beneficts out class the cons.

no. but we can work to make it better.

if it was for you, we wouldn’t probably have a game to begin with.
i’ll tell you that much.

i know there can be, ( and certainly there are ). so how about you make some polls over the forum and reddit and post the results.

therefore you will not have to trust me but the data shown from players in the polls :woman_shrugging:

but i bet you can’t be arsed to do so just as much to check inside an editor what can, and cannot be done.

thanks, i’ll try not to yahwn too much.

the answer is, and still remain a yes.

just because you can’t see it, doesn’t mean everyone else is blind friendo.

perhaps i have been too brought about it.
but it’s not the end of the world.

never claimed otherwise. but slighlty closer for sure.

surely i don’t speak fart like you without any slighlty evidences or details available to everyone refusing to use something similar that is being used for the base game.

you know… the actual engine?

i’d wished for you to be sarcastically naive about being this dummy though.
but it appears that’s not the case.

i can confidently say, in less than 15 minutes, you can find a handfull about it.

but you simply refuse to do so.

so… yeah. good job.

surely makes your point more valid than before.

does it hurt you so much that some people knows more than you do ?

if you try hard enough, maybe you’ll get good at something eventually.

arguing is not one of them though.

that’s not what i said though.

i called you a dumbass, because you are one.
it doesn’t take me to be a modder to figure out that you are one.

but allows me to call our your bullshit that are simply false.

if anything, shows how lazy you are though.

now, i’m gonna try to be reasonable and have a conversation, but so far, you have failed to follow many so…

maybe i am being delusional. anyway,

no. what you are doing, is called damaging control. ( or damage control ).
which it won’t work and it will not please the majority. quite the opposite. it’s just gonna piss more people.

no matter how you see it, or want to put it, there are always gonna be huge gaps left behind. such as, not everyone willing to play against the same campaign level equipment. not against the same skill you would effectively kill end game as it gets tiring to do the same thing.

which if you actually thinks this, you’re truly even more than a dumbass.

because you’re comparing carrots to potatoes.

two different things that comes from different issues.

which i did to prove a point, of people complaining about teammates not being efficent and whatever. which those people knows it, and want to play but not get bashed by other people. because not everyone wants to play games for competition. but to experience the game as it is. the graphics, and etc ) which not everyone is in favor of competition.

hence, that’s why giving them a place would help both the growth of the game, and the overhall matches for those who complains in pvp.

but i don’t expect for you to understand by this point.
once again, i don’t see what issue is gonna cause you so.

i’m all for it. even though it’s probably not gonna affect me in the slighltest.

i mean, maybe it will if i get burned out of pvp. which will probably happen at some point. and i see the reason and logic behind those who made messages asking for pves and what not.

what i’m trying to say is, pves are more stable than pvps. because it doesn’t really require balacing unlike making a new whole matchmaker system ( which btw, in 2/3 years we still haven’t got one so… should speak for it self and give you a few answers ).

just as much as you failed to search for pves?

i can tell you that from matchmaker people would still rather play a pve rather the absence of it.

it’s amazing how you can get things wrong in simple sentences.

because finding a pve ( that would just be another selection window inside the game mode selector ) as much as custom match it’s not that hard. people have figured out practice field. i’m sure figuring out pve mode won’t be that hard either ).

rather than watching a video which might be old and contain old/false information about it.

is… it… really hard for you to get this concept?

it truly seems like.

the matchmaker will affect based on the playerbase.

unironically, this somewhat is gonna create pves or sessions with bots as you cannot please and match people together.

but sounds a recipe for hell. if you want that, good. good for you.
but i don’t.

is it because you just don’t like it and can’t admit it, or is it because you lack of arguments against it?.

whether we agree on something, it’s not that hard for them to make a pve playlist/gamemode. literally.
which is by far more worthed as for the fifth time, it will bring more players and therefore more incomes.

which those money can be then putted into polishing the game.

i don’t… like this way either. but it seems a recording theme with DF/gaijin.
so we just play by the rule and try to please the majority in the meanwhile.

and wait for further fixes and such.

those were originally designed to be pve though.

and later on added pvp. so…

enlisted does have somewhat of a functional core. otherwise we would have empty lobbies. which it’s not the case.

the issues lies in the campaign system, and lack of matchmaker ( which can be somewhat mitigated with pves ) and allow for further room for improvements.

i mean, i’m sure they will figure out something on their own.

i’m not sure we are speaking the same language here at this point.

yes it will.

i can’t quantify a precise number because neither could you about the opposite, but you can connect the dots and see how much pve games can make earn a company.

warframe perhaps is an example that is light years of distance as there are differences but some similarities in other fields, it’s probably one of the most played pve ever created and most suceffull one.

and yes, it has some starfish hitler innit, but not all levels do.

it’s nevertheless a good game that allows everyone to play. whether they want pvp, or pve.

i don’t see why enlisted shouldn’t.

beside, as stated multiple times, pves will not make you earn as much as pvp. but it’s an alternative to pvp. ( or at least, should be ). therefore, as matches will somewhat last less longer, or perhaps make you earn less due to xp cap ( for obv reasons ), people will still be interested in playing with premium boosters for slighly get more xps, still buy premium squads for weapons or vehicles, and last but not least, also cosmetics.

it’s not one cannot exist because of the current model.

which, might not be interesting for you, but it is for others.

do not forget that.

because you lack of actual critical thinking.

once again, if you would starting thinking more, you would understand the implications and how to make stuff that works, and other that does not.

i would gladly let you play my upcoming mods.
it is… kinda… cringy that not many other people made them because after all, it requires time and effort, but those can truly be amazing experience for those who are sort of after it. or for example, historical matches and what not which cannot be played in multiplayer because historical accuracy is not a thing.

unfortunately, i cannot release them as there’s a current limit of 3mb size per mod ( despite being told 10 from the site and the official custom match ).

it’s not a thing throwed out like that where you either get sniped still in spawn, or a cake walk from point 1 to 5. but there’s balance and situations.

hard to explain, but it will speak for it self.

Considering how you justified this idea by bringing perhaps thousands ? new players and alot of money.
Wonder how come they havent found theyr way here demanding the same shit you do.

You said it, the irony. I never said PVE couldnt be implemented regardless how retarded that idea is.
While you were the one bashing others suggestion about simple updated tutorial / video.

Perhaps you should put your feelings aside for a while and think rationally like every above 12yrs could ?

Well it was you who claimed this PVE of yours would
A) Bring players ( Which I cant see in thousands in this topic )
B) Money and really if you think your PVE mode would promote ppl to buy premiums, thats just absolutely retarded claim. So obviously there has to be some sort of way to bring the money you said it would bring.

Ah classic ad-hominem.

Played plenty of PVE / Co-op games. And yet again I remain behind my statement, none of them shares anything even remotely relatable to enlisted.

Where you need the exp then if your having such a blast ?

Wonder why.

Eh, really ? Your now arguing the enlisted AI is actually smart in anyway ?
Cmon now, remember the internet rules. Never go full retard.

Ok so putting a level cap for matchmake requires some sort of higher magic and cannot be achieved but your pve mode is walk in the park ? Nor people are intelligent enough to watch tutorial video / play tutorial.
But the same people that has IQ of rubber boot would magically find way to switch to your PVE playing mode ?
Cmon now with those double standards.

You can have your low IQ gamemode once the devs have put theyr time and effort to make core game working properly.
I never denied your simpleminded playground.

By trial and error ? There are no perfect way thats obvious, but its still better than not doing anything.

Ah yes, implementing new game mode etc is just 2 clicks away while matchmaking would require necromancy and dark magic.
And you know all this because you managed to make models in modding tool ?

Yeah, imagine if we actually had working matchmake. You would be in lobbies that has players from the bottom of jar which would pretty much be exactly same as PVE, with that exception the players probably wouldnt shoot back as well as AI.

And the other end of jar would have players that very least are capable to tie theyr shoelaces.

Oh put them feelings aside for a second, its not end of the world if someone thinks your suggestion is retarded.
As said before, you can have your simpleminded playground as soon as the core issues of the actual game are fixed.

Ah yes forgot you have the subway artist degree and you are entitled to tell us what we need or what the game needs. We just cant decide for ourselfs.

Ah sorry didnt mean to hurt your feelings. Let me rephrase myself.
Requesting mod that requires highest levels of known IQ’s to slay absolutely terrifying and most human like AI ever made. Only the truest of true champions of Lake Tardicaca can continue on this quest.

no you said

Which is pretty dumb statement.

It really helps me to endure these insults by knowing im not the onlyone your insulting.
Which usually works, especiatly when your suggesting something that literally no one else wants.

Ah yes, the higher magicker modder stuff we regular players just cant understand.

Hardly, see anyone else talking with you ? No you dont because your idea is absolutely retarded.

Where is this majority you are entitled to speak for ? I mean there really isnt all that many people sharing this suggestion of yours with you ?

Yeah, thats the problem with quite many FPS games they become somewhat repetive.
But luckily you have found a workaround A PVE mode thats everytime different and definitely super fun to slay retarded AI.
Wow, wonder why no one else hasnt think of this before.

Except we only have the “PVP” matchmake issue.
PVE is issue only when it comes to PVP side.
Surely, your thousands of players can find theyr way to your custom game.
Once they do, im sure the devs do something about it.

And in that case they can join the custom games. Quite simple isnt it ?

Did your crystal ball tell your PVE mode will make this game famous or where this assumption is coming from?
Since I really still dont see people asking for it.

Is this modder stuff again we regular peasants simply cant understand ?

Exactly, quite alot of issues to fix before we can consider wasting time to retarded playgrounds.

yeah, seems the PVE is absolutely most spoken topic. 35 hits and im not even going to bother exclude the ones that are about lack of players in certain campaigns rather than “PVE MODE” your asking for.

Ah yes, videos simply cannot be updated to todays standards. Gotcha.
Guess it would take too much of resources unlike making entirely new mod ?

Ive said it quite many times that I happily wait 5-10minutes to get one game with teammates that are capable to tie theyr shoelaces.
Rather than have absolute shitshow every 60seconds with ppl that keeps theyr mouse in pocket because theyr afraid theyr cat will eat it.

Stick to your custom PVE then. Quite simple.

Oh snap, was it that when I said its absolutely retarded idea to have mod where you slay the most retarded AI ever known in history of humankind ? Was that the sentence that gave away that I definitely wont be joining your PVE mode ?

I mean its up to you argue why such retarded mode is necessary.
And once again, you can have your simpleminded playground.
Once the more urgent stuff gets fixed.

Just like it isnt hard to fix numerous other issues. So, regardless you have the famous magical modder hat that qualifies a job at subway.
Everything else speaks quite alot against your statement of it being just that simple aka the “simple issues” that remain unsolved.

All those 35 who made topic with “PVE” on it ?
Yeah definitely sounds worth the effort, definitely will bring players and most likely will bring shitload of cash.
Really.

Quite sure it is.

You really are resident of lake tardicaca arent you ?
With your logic we should make enlisted clone of CSGO as its arguably the most played competive game with arguably most earnings due to skins etc.
Would that work ? Well fk no.

Yeah got to agree theres some similarities with warframe and enlisted.
Both are equally historically correct and both are videogames.

Any other absolutely fantastic arguments ?

Sure thing, you can have your starfish hitler mode once the core game is fixed.

You do have actual evidence to back up these money claims or are we just trusting on your word because you are qualified to be sandwich artist at subway ?

Really.

Ah yes the 35 others.

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“hEy GuYS ive got IDEA lets make mode that no one wants it surely will bring money and players”
Uhm no.
“OK you GUYS are dumb fucks”

You mean this kind of critical or even rational thinking ?

Oh fear not mighty knight of lake tardicaca. Il guarantee your the first one il contact when I need someone with “critical&rational thinking”

Thanks, no.

Really, best of lucks to your adventures.

Wtf is this topic?

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Imho some people are just afraid that PvE will become the most popular mode of the game, as it already happened to some other games.
I would really like to see a proper PvE campaign as it would allow to return all of the proper features we had that put this game apart from other shooters. It had proper MGs, proper shotguns, artillery, bombs, tanks, grenades, penetrations of walls and etc. Before it all got nerfed to stop the endless whining about things being OP and need for “balance”.
I’m playing now mostly pacific and its often hard to tell who is a player and who is a bot unless you engage in cqb, outside of cqb it hardly matters. All the fun bits, like strafing infantry with fighter’s mg is now gone, because wood became impenetrable so even branches and etc. are enough to shelter infantry. And it’s all because newly added HMG did exactly what it suppose to do but endless whining led to a nerf of everything that could pen a wooden wall.
I’ve spend so much time on training my MGs, aviation, tanks, AT squads, engineers and at the end, it’s all getting nerfed to a point of being useless situational crap. I’m done with this game, again, after coming back from a year brake and seeing how in just 1 month so many things got “destroyed” because of “balance” and “fairness”. I don’t see a feature for this game without a proper PvE mode with all the features we had at the start that made this game unique. The PvP aspect of the game with “balancing” everything by just stripping off features, is what killing it for me personally.

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