As someone who absolutely adores suppressed firearms to bits I truly can’t agree with the “PPshhhhh” being added to the tech tree. It’s just far and beyond excessive and overkill. It would be a perfect item for a unique event Squad but TT? No.
If it was something like a bolt action or semi auto rifles and everyone got something similar, maybe. Even then silenced weapons I feel should be something that’s given out sparingly. They deserve to be unique.
I really hope the Devs might postpone the implementation of this weapon and put something else in its stead into the TT down the line. The few that would be disappointed by its removal from the TT would be very much more than worth the praise from the overwhelming majority of the community.
Please Dark Flow, do heed our concerns with sincerity. We don’t want to form a new and harmful precedent that’ll only cause more harm than good, for players, for the forums that’ll be filled with complaints and for the burden it’ll put on yourselves the developers and overall harming the game.
I hope the right and appropriate choice will be made concerning this gun. It doesn’t have to go away forever or completely. Just for now and not in the TT.
Maybe you crybabies can ask for a silenced Kiraly 39M in Axis techtree and stop whinging about something this unimportant. Nobody is going to use this suppressed PPSh-41. The Regular PPSh-41 is already pointless in BR5 and nobody uses it. Anyone with a crumb of sense is using Assault Rifles in BR5.
Firstly, this is not spam. These are simply my thoughts and opinions about the PPSh-41 (S). Second, even if we assume that this is spam, which it is not, it would be spam for the greater good, to save the game from going down the wrong path. The more feedback there is, the more developers see what people don’t like, and therefore, the greater the chance that they will reverse an unpopular decision.
Numerous indentical topics about this “issue” were created in past few days. And even the notification from helper that it’s already been passed to the devs for resolution didn’t deter you from spamming it.
Yeah, because you definitely haven’t liked the previous topics that shared exactly the same opinion. And there’s was need to spam it all over again.
(And if I would go check the Russian forum, I’d probably find a topic there too - created by the same people.)
At least be honest that you are trying to push changes into the game with systematic spam.
There was definitely no need to have 4+ identical topics about the same “issue” in time period of 1 week.
Silenced Kiraly 39M? Did it exist? If so, I wouldn’t mind seeing it as a weapon of some kind of Hungarian guerrilla unit.
But not in the tech tree. Weapons with silencers should not be in the tech tree. Since ancient times, weapons with silencers in Enlisted have been the preserve of premium and event squads, simply event/BP weapons, but they have never been in the tech tree. And that makes sense. Because neither side in World War II used silencers on a large scale. Weapons with silencers in WWII were the weapons of a few special units; no one issued them to ordinary soldiers.
So maybe it’s not worth introducing it? Well, if you’re going to introduce it, then the PPSh-41 (S) should be an event squad weapon and lowered to 4BR, just like the regular PPSh-41.
The point here is not who uses what, the point is that the PPSh-41 (S) is a very dubious, non-historical weapon. It has no place in the tech tree, at least without extreme necessity. Which there is none.
Again, it’s not about who uses what and that the PPSh-41 (S) is useless at 5BR. The point is:
Historical accuracy
Atmosphere
Sometimes historical accuracy can and even should be disregarded for the sake of balance, as in the case of the AS-44, but the PPSh-41 (S) is not one of those cases. It is simply not needed in the tech tree.
In any case, even if it is spam, as I said, it would be spam for the greater good. Besides, technically speaking, it is not spam, as the content and text of all posts about the PPSh-41 (S) are different; they are written in different ways.
It’s just annoying. It would be much better to have the debate consolidated in one place.
“I can spam because I think I am doing the good thing”.
So many entitled people these days. Like there’s not even possibility for someone to bring better solution. Let’s your steamroll such person with consistent spam, coordinated by the same group of people.
It seems to me it’s that or they are genuinely so concerned about the uniqueness of a silenced weapon going away by being added to the tech tree.
I would prefer as such to happen… all nations minus japan get a suppressed high BR smg or even assault rifle in tech tree.
These guns are fun and are hard counters to the shitty AI we have now… they are jank and always will be but that’s what can be fun about the game.
No reason i should be locked to the 4 i already spent money on like wowww im so insulted that i get unlimited more? I really cannot believe this is always the excuse when premium gets added to tech tree basically
Since asymmetrical balance seems to be the trend recently, adding a similar weapon to each nation could be a better alternative… but considering this appears to be a purely based off a picture the excuse can be made to just scrap it or be a portal to a whole bunch of new possibilities.
Thanks, but no thanks. Weapons with silencers should remain premium/event/BP weapons, as they always have been. And the PPSh-41 (S) should be removed from the tech tree; instead, they should make an event squad of Soviet commandos with it.
Let’s add silencers to all weapons, then collimators, then optics. Thank you, but we don’t need that. If you want to play circus instead of WW2, go to Battlefield.
And how do you imagine this place for debates? Spoiler alert: you know what the developers will do with this place. They will ignore it. The only way to get anything out of the Enlisted developers is to whine, whine, and whine some more! Whine, whine, and whine again!!! That’s the only way that works, at least to some extent.
Firstly, there is relative freedom of speech on the forum. If someone has an opinion on how to solve a problem, they can write a post about it. Secondly, as for the best solution, I have already suggested what I believe to be the best solution. Remove the PPSh-41 (S) and make it an event squad of Soviet commandos.