If I recall germans had 2 designations to machineguns light & heavy.
No gpmg or mag fed machine gun or what ever.
Mg42 with ~9000 belt was light machine gun while Mg42 on tripod with ~50 belt was heavy.
thats not how it was.
light/heavy was defined by whether a MG was mounted on a tripod/lafette or not. the other factors were not taken into account.
main reason for that was that MGs in positions like these could be used on longer ranges, much more effectively/efficiently & against more targets, eg planes.
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So pretty much exactly as I said ?
I added the belt regardless highly exeggarated only to highlight the ammo capacity had nothing to do with lmg / heavy lmg definition.
Mg42 was light machinegun regardless did it have a 9000 belt or not as long as it wasnt mounted on tripod.
i agree with this. run and gun should be with small magazine/belt while stationary should have high ammo(with some deployment mechanism).
sadly we dont have such mechanism, nor are developers interested in making it, so on default i oppose every high magazine/belt MG.
Easiest, regardless the most unfavorable would be to make it same as solothurn.
You aint firing unless mounted or prone.
regardless no one is hip or shoulder firing a mg with more then 50 shots in a magazine or belt without a going prone thus supporting the mg against the ground, a window frame, wall or other object. that is no one is using an mg with more then 50 bullets in a magazine, box, drum, or belt free standing. you can call it what ever you want light, medium, heavy, general purpose. a mg with 75, 100, 200 bullets is not being used as such until the can rest the barrel, bipod or tripod on a supportive object. A correctly apointed hundred round stinger mg is but a freak example that proves the point.
and no you do not get a swiss army mg that can use 50 round drum and a 100/200 round box. if you want a high capacity mg it must only be used with a deployed bipod/tripod.
If I recall there was 75 drum too so are you saying the differency between 50 and 75 was so huge that the one with 75 drum just had to lay down or get a bipod ?
Its slightly difficult to get hold of your point here, but if I understood what you are saying guns such as RD44 from now on should be nerfed like solothurn that it can be only used from bipod ?
no my point is that you cannot bring a 50 round drum and 100+ round box for a machine gun
the RD44 is designed to be able though not optimally as the drum can hang from the gun, while the box magazine of a german mg would require either the hand of the gunner to support it or an object to rest on. one to hold the grip and operate the trigger one to support the barrel and a third to support the box magazine.
So soviets can do what ever the fk with large mag but GE is limited to 50 ?
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no if you search through many post o0n this forum you will find such an ability existed in earlier german guns,
german guns were not designed to be hip or shoulder fired did you not wonder why they had such high rates of fire and why the rd44 is so low.
dunno first clip with âshoulder firing mg42â
wow german technology a 25 round belt holds 200 bullets
German belts are called âZerfallgurteâ and were made of individual interlinked metal parts, so the possible capacity is only limited to your amount of belt parts and ammo.
Standard lenght were interlinkable 50 round belts. German Mg drums werenât real magazines but only belt containers and were designed for assaults, just providing a better handling while firing on the move for the shooter than a free belt.
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For the love of god stop using âhistorically accurateâ to describe equipment functionality. Youâre only undermining your own goals.
No⌠it varied between 900 and 1500âŚ
No, god no, the IRL ammo size for an infantry squad member was 50
The 250 rounders were separate belt boxes for emplacements
And the 100 round belt right now is hIsToRiCalLy iNaCcUrAtE because you wouldnât walk around with them like that, and the belts only came with 50 rounds (but with clip on capability). So belts with higher round counts where they stuck a bunch together was for emplacements or entrenched defensive positions, you wouldnât actually run around with them, thatâs what the goddamn belt-drum is forâŚ
So you might as well say 300 rounds, 500, 1000, infinity, skyâs the limit when you donât give a care!
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Nope. Not enough. Give it 500 rounds (2 belts put together), 2000 rpm, and 100% move speed for historical accuracy (the soldiers were on meth). Also it needs to have no dispersion penalty for balance reasons. Also give it a Vampir night vision sight (not for other factions though) and add night maps so I can use muh wunderwaffe.
EDIT: Also give us a MG42 with 25 rounds and 75% move speed for br2 germany and a FG42 with a 10 round mag for br3, literally unplayable against the burgers and commies. Please fix.
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And to Japan too, but painted green please.
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I agree - it should entirely have itâs historical context - so give axis teams using it 0 perks (due poor supply, low morale), no more than 1 tank per team per game, no air support and no artillery or ammo boxes.
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That would be unfair, at least let them have child soldiers to have smaller hitboxes. Easiest way to nerf the fedorov is to have a smaller hitbox and not be hit.
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Good point - and negative perks tooâŚ
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Old people are also needed. They will die at random times and not let the enemy kill them.
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