The Main Frustrating part of this game

I have sunk a lot of effort and hours playing this game, because I believe it has a good potential and maintains a perfect balance between realism and arcade.

But there’s a main thing factor that holds me from saying this is a good game.

It’s the fact that this game punishes good players.

As you can see here, despite performing almost as twice as good as the enemy and performing thrice as good as my team , I’ve lost. This is a no brainer because there are more competent enemies. It shows the fact, to win, you must get a good team.


Just look at the kill gap, absolute shameful.

But the problem is that there’s no such thing as match making, hence making it an RNG. Losing is one of the biggest punishments in grinding, because you lose the 1.5% exp multiplier. I therefore conclude that grinding in this game is RNG, and that you lose more because of incompetent teammates. I can also say that the reason why a lot of people leave matches is because it is not worth it to carry a braindead team.

How do we solve this RNG grinding?

  1. Give the 1st down to the 4th guy of the losing team a 1.5 exp multiplier. (or any bonus multiplier)
  2. The 1.5x bonus for wining must be changed to performance or how good did a player did ; hence all scores would be arranged from ascending to descending. Top 10 Highest scores shall be rewarded with the multiplier.
  3. Implement a match making system

If it feels bad for the new players, imagine how does the single vet that needs to carry all of the bad players feel. It’s unfair, unrewarding and I think just tells good players to quit matches with incompetent players on it and receive even more punishment, the 0.7 xp multiplier .

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But …But , the Noobs?!

Well Done Sir, Nice Stats. You know what you talking, please make more Posts

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Join some discord and play with 2-3 other players, if they are half as good You will win 98% of matches.

yeah, but that don’t fix the problem. It’s further show the problem. Like you said, with how MM is right now, team of 4 coordinated man with above average skill will probably win, now that’s unfair for the enemy team which consist of rando

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Well if You can’t beat them, join them.
For now we have no matchmaking, and keo said they were not gonna implement one anytime soon.
So if the dude is getting mad for losing despite playing good, he should just team up and not get mad all the time.

If this problem get bigger by more people teamin up and stomping new guys, maybe devs will finally notice people leaving game and do something about it.

And playing with teammates, and having competent enemy team is a rare opportunity to have balanced match (though it’s mostly explosive spam now). While i played solo i got 2-3 good matches per 100. With squad it’s more likely You can put up a fight against a good team.
There is another problem of stomps getting so hard, enemy don’t even leave spawn, but this also happend when i played solo in tunisia all the time so i don’t care anymore

Instruction unclear, I got stomped as allies then I joined the axis and got stomped again.

What steps did I do wrong? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

4Player Party unfair? Where the F is this UNFAIR?
Every PVP Game is like this.
Thats what a Squad do, work together…

Win or Loose i dont care anymore too.

Im so glad, i have make over 250 Friends in last 15 Years of PlayStationNetwork. Never Alone.

Maybe no Friends, Maybe Skill Issue, Maybe to Good.
I have more Solutions but, you will dont like them :roll_eyes:

Fakt is. Game punish You when you get

Shit Daylis, skip them, and Dayli comes again x3.
XP Boost and land in a already started Round.
like YOU say, Loose, switch Sides and Loose again.
Inside of a Tank and K.I jokes you and run behind your Sights.
on a MG, got over 100Kills and the Gun begins to hip over Enemys.
Ghost Shells with Tank, you have clearly killed 10 Enemys but it counts 0-1.

To much Time inGame but i will make 30 Days again inGame.

The most Frustrating Thing for me are Tank Ghost Shells…

All good, i play all sides anyway

It is a bit unfair. Imagine going against 4 player party while going sole and your teammate can’t even put a bloody rally point.

Every PVP game has party system, but even then they sometimes match them by how many player (solo, duo, etc).

And since Enlisted mostly centered around progression, win or loose matters since they give you 1.5 multiplier

MM need some sort of rework, even Keo admitted that "approx. every fifth session goes according to the scenario “two experienced player of the team eat up the entire enemy team like a meat grinder” "

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Very true indeed, but still, not fixing the problem

It literally fixes the problem for him, play with mates, win.
He complained of losing, so i gave a solution.
I can’t change game code to fix it for everyone.

okay, I’m now thinking that the “problem” that we talk is different. What I mean is partying with people possibly will fix his problem of loosing. But, the problem that enlisted MM suck and need some work will still exist.

nah changing the xp boster and making it competitive is not a good idea

Happened to me yesterday before I had work. Only had an hour or so, it wasnt looking good at ALL and I had to get wins for my challenge.

Darkflow is going to need to comp our spinal surgeries at this rate with how much we have to carry teams sometimes, I feel you on this so much.

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Hm ok you got good Arguments,
I got enough Premium Squads and nearly all Campaigns max Lvl, dont need any multiplicator of Win or Loose…

My Problem is, every Day People cry in Forum about Skill Issue Problems.
What is, when all of you on my Stand? Forum then is full of Tears or what.
MM is Shit, there will nothing come.
SBMM is MORE Shit.

It’s a team game. You could always go play DeathMatch on COD or something if you want all the glory for yourself.

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Hell, I played 20+ games yesterday and last night, lost at least 15 of them. Some of them really weirdly.

The second to last match was so bad… no chat, no coordination, I don’t think a single person called artillery, or made a single mark on the map, never saw a tank on either side except the one I started in, and I spent most of the match in my planes blazing away with not a single enemy or friendly plane in the sky the whole match, no one put down a single spawn point, ammo box, or flak 20mm on either side.

We did win that one at the last minute. Mostly because we were defending and in the only plane in the sky I just kept hammering them with rockets and bombs. We barely won that on, and it’s the ONLY game were I have ever felt I literally won it on my own.

It was like the whole game was bots. That’s the roll of the dice. It was so weird I screenshot the results for a friend.

Well its technically a team vs randoms, should be quite no brainer why is it “unfair”.

Take CSGO for example, if you search with premade 5 the MM will try to find enemy of premade 5.
Sure this game has probably 9 active players so its not really comparable to csgo.
But you got the point.

How to check if there are many or few bots

ㆍPoint kills account for the majority of all kills.
ㆍNo tanks or planes are visible.
ㆍK/D is too low (of course, some people have a lower KD than BOT, seriously)
ㆍMostly charge towards the POINT

The players you faced were all bots. It’s my first time seeing this

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