The M9 Bazooka and 76mm-equipped tanks won't be sufficient post-merge

reich should have some nerfs in terms of damage, fire rate and corridor maps. tank balance is very stupid in enlisted, so it’s much to do now

sausagephiles won’t suggest much, dude. just wait till proper jackson/firefly/t26 appear with subcaliber rounds or improved 90mm. i believe they should, and be stronger than in WT which idiotically nerfs solid APs and buffs german armor

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Yeah, which is why I’m waiting for a definitive “This is what the US will get in the future” from either the devs or helpers.

These are the same people who thought the Type 4 is equal to the M2 Carbine, after all.

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US also should have slight buff to it’s ATG capabilities, becuz, for example i never seen in my resources that PIAT has pathetic 80mm of piercing. dk where they took that

I mean balancing is a separate phenomenon, but it is pretty much a given that we will get those vehicles one day. This game already has so much content, it’s only a matter of time

I’m sure we’ll get the Sturmtiger eventually too

I’m not missing the point at all. I’ll work on uploading my own videos, showing you that the M9 bazooka can be effectively used to kill a Panther from a considerable distance away.

Same with being able to one shot a Tiger II from the front, using a tier 1 T-34-85 (D5-T)

Here you go buddy. If you can do it in the test range, you can do it on the battlefield.
If you’re too lazy to position yourself correctly vs a tank, I don’t know what to tell you.
The M9 rocket is more than capable of destroying Tiger E’s, Panther A’s, Panther G’s, and PZ IV’s from a considerable distance.
You can kill all of these tanks if you simply know where to shoot them, and are willing to put in the effort to engage these vehicles from appropriate angles.

First Example: Panther A

Second Example: Panther A and Pz. IV x2

Third Example: Panther G

Fourth Example: Tiger and Pz. IV

Fifth: Panther A

And then you have a Tier 1 soviet tank (T-34-D85) vs a King Tiger II (H), which can OHK this top-tier axis tank.

Sixth: Just shoot the MG port, and you’re good to go.

And if you know to fly an aircraft, it’s not that hard to deal with a top-tier tank who is camping in the grey zone…
Just ask your teammates to mark the vehicle, and bomb it…

And if you are dealing with a player who is using an AT cannon while camping in the grey zone… a Panzerfaust is more than capable of dealing with the problem.

You have a wide variety of resources available to you, so I’m not really sure what you’re complaining about? The M9 rocket can deal with all of these vehicles who are camping in the grey zone. It’s just a matter of putting in some effort, and positioning yourself to engage the vehicle from a 45 degree angle, or from a 90 degree angle (whatever is available to you).
-And if the vehicle is positioned in a difficult spot, then use an aircraft.
-Or mark the vehicle and ask a teammate to bomb it.
-Or build an AT cannon and aim for the MG port on the hull of the tank.
-Or shift your focus on critically damaging the vehicle, and forcing the tank crew out for repairs (and then shoot them)
-Or quit the game, because you’re not capable of doing any of these things (and find a game where there aren’t grey zone campers).
And if none of these are viable options for you, and you still persist on being able to OHK all axis tanks from the frontal position… then I don’t know what else to tell you.

Also, if you read description for the King Tiger, it says:

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PIAT can OHK a Tiger E, if you know where to shoot it, and are able to pull off the maneuver.

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Aiming at Tiger II H MG port reminds me the old meme:

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know where to shoot

i don’t need so with dumbfaust or shreck, except i meet konigtiger (who could have doubts)

nuuuuh, thear completel equal! (c) typical germain

-Players can either try and OHK the Tiger by shooting the MG port on the hull
-Players can shoot the barrel, and force the tank to retreat (or force the crew out to repair)
-Players can shoot the tracks and immobilize the tank (then shoot the barrel, or shoot the MG port, or move to a better angle and shoot it from the side)
-Players can shoot the weak spot on the turret, and kill a member from the tank crew/damage the turret.
-Players can use an AT cannon and utilize the above strategy :arrow_up:
-Players can use M9 Bazooka for the above strategy :arrow_up:
-Players can consider the new repair mechanics, so if they are able to destroy the turret, the axis player has no choice but to repair the tank from an exposed position
-Players can OHK the tank with a 50lb, 100lb, and 250lb bomb

Completely fantasy. A player in Jumbo / (76) W / Firefly must KILL Tiger II in one shot, as damaging the tracks or barrel will only reveal his position to Tiger’s II commander → he will be dead in one next shot.

It might work in Normandy for Tiger E, but it will not work after the merge with Tiger II.

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If Germans are too stupid to use high ground.

They can also sit behind the right bunker and cover like 5% of the battle area or drive 25m to the cp and get greeted by the German infantry.
Or pick up the Jumbo and use a tank at a reasonable distance and blow up tanks with P-47 if they have second slot.

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Who cares what people start with with?
I started with the Panzer IV J but I dont necessarily use it instead of the Tiger II anymore.

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Not if you utilize cover…

Try this: (Providing the Tiger II hasn’t already spotted you).
-Before engaging the tank, position yourself on the edge of concealment (like a house or a bunker or elevated terrain).
-Pull forward a little bit, aim for the weakspot of your choice, and fire.
-Immediately reverse, and hide (if the tiger starts to look for you).
-Count to 5-15 seconds
-Slowly pull forward and take another shot.
-Retreat/reload/wait
-repeat.

How do you think tank battles were fought in real life? You think tanks just drove up on each other, exchanging one shot after the other?
Or are tactics just as important as the firepower?

Then again… the real issue is map design and the existence of the grey zone.

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Here is the thing I would rather used m4a2 for it’s better mobility as to me that is far more important for frontline infantry support, after all can’t get det packed if you move, but because of the tiger and the panther I have no choice but to run jumbo for its protection. Now that comment you replied to, I was talking to sheep person about how the user I was talking about is a true to wehraboo back then, as they are now, and it shows by the way he angled his armor to the tiger angle which if done in any Sherman series of tanks can lead to the rare thinking German to send a panzer 4 round, the lost penning round I can think of, straight through the lower side armor

Bro reading your comments under this post was pure frikking joy.

I honestly dont know how much copium are you snorting but you gotta stop.

I am playing both Normandy Allies and Normandy Axis since the beginning and i can say that i am very good. And do you want to know some facts?

Maps are small with very little options for “flanking”.
Cover DOES NOT help you against Tiger. Because do you know what will Tiger do once you shoot him? Look to the side where he got shot from and suprise suprise, WAIT for that tank to reappear. And then promptly shoot him once to send his turret straight to developers.

Just your “protip” of shooting tracks and THEN barrel is the singlehandedly most retarded thing i have read on these forums in ages and thats something given its often populated by armchair generals and craplords who are bad at the game and usually just give out bad advice (cough like you cough).

Do you know what you are doing by shooting tracks? Wasting your shot into component that doesnt prevent enemy tank from fighting, at all. Do you know what happens after you shoot? You reload and enemy tank is loaded and looking at your sorry ass who just shot his track. I guess you know what happens next, especially with Allied paper thin armour.

Allied tank and infantry gameplay is pure suffering when it comes to facing tanks (and in case of Allied tanks, even facing infantry). Maps are small and generally speaking rather claustrophobic. Spotting system WILL prevent any tries at hiding and flanking, you can very much trust me on that. If there even any ways to flank through, that is. Because alot of maps are very, very poorly made. Not as bad as Stalingrad maps mind you, but still far from good.

So your options are generally speaking as follows: Are you anything but Jumbo? You are on a timer before Tiger spawns to slap you into oblivion or random Panzerfaust gets you, there is nothing you can do. Are you a Jumbo? Pray to all gods that Tiger will get CLOSE to you so you can shoot his barrel (and pray that your hand is faster than his) and THEN you shoot his tracks, pushing in for sideshot. It works only at very close distance and if Tiger is shooting you from range, its just matter of time until he gets through while you can just hope for chance of hiding behind a building, which honestly just prolongs the inevitable before AT appears.

Are you infantry? Congratulations! Two out of three of your AT weapons are really, really, really fucking bad. Third one is mediocre. M1 bazooka might as well not exist due to its absolutely useless pen and barely any post-pen damage. PIAT is hit or miss and while it is better than Sturmpistole, its not THAT much better and as such will generally speaking protect you only from Pz III and IV (which arent honestly dangerous most of the time and can be easily destroyed). M9 bazooka, which should be “equivalent” to Ofenrohr is still WORSE than Panzerfaust but it MIGHT get you some results. If it feels like. And its a endgame unlock mind you.

In the meantime what is happening on the German side…

For long time i had Panzerfaust which was and still is able to very, very reliably OHK to side of any Allied tank and honestly even fronts of most. There are no duds, no “penetration but no damage” or similar bullshit other HEAT based weapons suffer from. You see side? Thats a kill. Some time ago i bothered to unlock Ofenrohr. And guess what? Now i dont have to bother with any flanking. One rocket, one kill. I dont care what it is, i dont care where is it facing. I am autistic enough to land 100m shots at tanks that literally just spawned on road and are trying to get to the battlefield. I can literally smell the tears, rage and sheer desperation of Allied tankers. Do they get to enjoy game? Fuck no, me or anyone else in the team with broken as fuck AT weapons will make sure of it.

And what happens if i feel like i want to play tank, the Tiger? Ah yes, Allied AT weapons cannot harm me. I have fully upgraded Tiger via gold card so i am faster than most of medium tanks, very nimble and can actually outrun poorly thrown explosive pack (to which i am mostly immune similar to KV-1´s in Stalingrad, fuck those things). All while massacring some poor Allied troopers that have exactly 0% chance of killing me. I am not even greyzone camper, all it takes is to not be a retard and have some open space around you.

Allied tanks? Lol, lmao even. 76mm? There is this magic called “angling” which makes me immune. Jumbo? Unless its really smart and good player who jumps me at brawling distance i can laugh. While i am not able to pen him frontally with ease (MG port has one of the worst hitboxes i have ever seen) i can easily apply good old barrel and tracks torture. I shoot his barrel, then his tracks. If he gets out i MG him. Once i get him to stop wiggling and prolonging the snuggle with struggle, i pen his MG port. Tadaaaaaaa!

Is there anything i fear and respect? Yes, Allied air. If enemy has good pilot in P-47 and i get spotted, i am very likely dead. But guess what? Thats ONE player out of team that has what, 15? ONE player is able to fight me, ONE players is able to endanger me. Even if somehow the team is lucky enough to have a guy with P-51, it only makes two players capable of dealing with me at any given time. What can rest do? Die and give me points, thats all what they can do and literally their whole purpose most likely according to devs.

And lest not even get to the fact how i am rolling and smoking Americans as infantry (like most of my team) because when i am not in Tiger, i am rotating two maxed out MP-43/StG/Conders squads and premium Paratroopers. Americans? M1 Garands, uncommon M2 Carbine and one or two rare as fuck players with premium squads that can face me. Problem? There are 8 people like me in my team that are rotating same or similar loadout.

If something i respect pure Allied players that they are actually still playing Normandy. Its NOT fair in the slightest. It used to be worse when D-Day was more common, ah good old days where i had 20k score per match. You can guess how given my love for tanks. There is very lovely hill with bunker on it thats overlooking the beach…

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Mobility means jackshit in this regard. Maps are too small and its armour or death.

Even when we take Tiger and Panthers out of equation, single Panzerfaust will penetrate M4A2 from front and kill it. There is liteally no point in playing M4A2, ever. That thing is just bad in current meta and honestly last time it was decent was like two years ago.

If you have to use THAT tanker squad, use the Scott. It doesnt survive shit, but thats same for M4A2. It however shoots very fast and very good HE that will most likely allow you to clear objective and its surrounding before someone bothers to sends a rocket your way. You will die, very soon even. But you will get kills and score and thats all that matters.

And strangely enough, its HEAT is capable of doing wonders against Tiger. You just gotta spot it first. But it can kill it from any side which is neat. And with its firerate you might even have more than one try at killing the Kitty before it turns to you.

Says the guy who decided to write me a novel, telling me how useless the information is.

What a fucking joke.

Did you notice that I am maxed out on Allied faction, and am NOT bitching about the axis vehicles being OP.

What the fuck is your problem dude? I spent all that time this morning, trying to help assist people who are struggling with the M9 rocket. Yet… in your mind, you think I’m purely an axis player who is defending the state of the armored units

By the way, you spent all that time writing that novel. And I stopped after the third paragraph.
Congratulations.

If anybody needs to cope… it’s you dude.
Inconsiderate fuck.