The SG43 which is a 7.62x54R caliber made in 1943 would be the better pick for the later Berlin map. The 1910 maxim would be perfect for Moscow as the Russians were primarily using it
I like that idea
could be cool
Something like lafette Maxim
But wouldn’t it be too much considering Maxim already has a shield?
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I think this higher mounted Maxim is even better idea than normal from gameplay perspective. Wheels wouldn’t serve any purpose anyway because engineer MG is stationary and this mount would allow setting Maxims in buildings etc. So my suggestion is to bring Maxim on this mount and ignore the historical fact that it was more commonly used on its wheels.
Shield would protect only from small calibers, what is rather rare anyway - most of the time its the snipers who shoot at MG nests.
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Not really. The current damage model of mounted MGs allows anyone with a rifle to take a guessed shot and make the MG inoperable. This was intentionally done after the first version became too OP in the small maps we have now. It lead to all sorts of mayhem from the respwan points to the capture zone.
I personally would like this to stay as it forces players to be careful about where they build their MGs.
That’s what I meant, sorry for oversimplification.
Maxim shield should protect the shooter only against submachineguns, rifles should penetrate it. If you hit machinegun itself it should be destroyed like it is now. But sometimes it is easier to aim at the gunner (especially for snipers because of the scopes), because they are bigger targets. And the shield in Maxim will give protection to balance it against german MGs with much higher RoF.
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That high mount looks like it’s part of the wheeled mount. Like it extends out or something, so it might not be as antiquated as it looked on just wheels.
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But that would only apply for the later maps like Normandy and Berlin. Early war the Germans had the MG34 as the MG42 only came into play in 1942 which is close to when that battle ended. MG34 vs Maxim 1910 is a much closer match than MG42 vs Maxim
Maxim has 600 RPM, MG34 has 800-900 RPM. That is not a close match in that category.
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600 vs 800? That’s nothing. Because of 200 rpm one gets a shield and one doesnt? Not every weapon is the same or should it be. Here Maxim has less jump and over heats slower and MG34 has more sway. Balance. Things wont be exact because that’s boring. What’s the idea then for 1919 vs MG42 because nothing fires as fast as the MG42. Rpm is not the only factor
No. It’s on tripod, sway is only if you hold it in hand. This topic is abbout mounted guns so there is no sway.
If you mean recoil then you are wrong (if MG34 is on tripod).
No, the shield is there because someone back then put it there and that version was used by Soviet Union. We just want to bring this iconic machinegun to the game and make it balanced. I don’t know if you read the whole post - thin shield would protect the gunner from small caliber firearms like submachineguns and pistols (I don’t know if I ever died to such weapon when I was using MG nests), but the rifles would go through. That way the shield is mostly the visual barrier, recompensating the lower rate of fire of Maxim. Of course, lower ROF means that it will overheat slower, but player who knows how to use MG34 just shoots in bursts and don’t overheat his gun anyway (as for there is no barrel changing mechanisms in Enlisted).
Higher ROF allows to mow enemies much faster, before they even notice where are you shooting from. If you want to compare just take PPD40 in game and compare its ROF to MP40. Then imagine both have same damage output and no recoil due to being mounted. That is why Maxim should keep its historical shield.
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For the game purposes it almost wouldn’t overheat.
Shield was mainly to cover gunner from the shrapnels. As we don’t have shrapnels for artillery it’s near to pointless, but as you’ve rote it’s too iconic to remove.
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voted for all the steampunk stuff like Shielded DSHK on wheels, etc. Because that’s fun lol But in general, this needs to be balanced carefully. MG nests are already major nuisance to fun gameplay. and camper heaven. There is zero fun for anyone in MG camping nests.
you have to understand that shield will be mostly useless in this game because most machine gunners die from rifles and snipers and not from SMG’s and pistols.
I agree, it won’t change anything.
MG-34 is ahead-of-it’s-time machine gun and if allies need to get something to counter it
It’s called asymmetrical balance
Not all weapons have to behave the same
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Basically snipers, tanks, mortars and artillery.
They already have all they need to neutralise enemy MG.
We are talking about balancing factors unless you would like every single mounted weapon to behave the same. There is absolutely recoil on an MG regardless of the mount. Normally a higher ROF means a worse sight picture as the gun will recoil and sway. Slower ROF means a clearer sight picture while firing. A tripod isnt a magic wand as anyone who has shot a real MG can attest
Honestly the shield will be a hinderance. It will limit the field of view massively compared to other MGs
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I’m a bit confused here. Could you explain yourself?
There is small chance that no one did more posts and comments about MGs than me. It’s my hobby. And I never wrote about MGs being the same.
Not really?
Germany is really the only one using MG34 derivatives yet, as is the US still using M2 derivatives.