The FG42 was a real Paratrooper LMG, built in numbers that would have been small 2/4K for any gun in any war. All SF should be removed from the game but that is not to be. The FG42 as an infantry is about as real as the T20. The M1 carbine is far more suited to be used as a tank crew weapon that the FG42 to be used by the infantry as a rifle.
Weapons to not go from prototype to tech tree. German and anything but the stinger using more than 50 rounds while being wielded like a lmg (with perhaps the exception of weapons like the sattlebach". That is being shoulder or hip fire or being operated by a single person. no need to use the bipod attach the magazine or have a second person carrying the ammo.
Any faction having as many MG’S or sniper rifles as they do. Any faction but the us having as many semi autos as they do, only the ussr comes close, japan a distant third and japan not playing. Being offended by prototypes but not all the other shenanigans is petty. It heavily favors germany punishes the us the most and make it impossible to balance Japan to a meaningful br.
Sorry we can play enlisted, ww2 but not youre wet dread of a thousand year reich. the game is not, cannot and will not be ww2 even if prototypes are removed. I believe if the company suggested it the quote would be you can remove my fg42 from the cold dead fingers of my rifleman. though would do cartwheels about removing the T20 and other sf’s.
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The FG42 was developed and build for paratroopers in order to replace the K98k and the MP40. It was never intended to serve as, nor is it technically a lMG, but a battle rifle.
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even if thats true its a paratrooper weapon not infantry and at 2000 and 4000 no more suited to be arming riflemen in the tech tree than the T20 and T20E1. I tricked you its the BAR Browning Automatic Rifle as much a battle rifle as the FG42.
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Just ask for more customisation options to allow every squad to wear a paratrooper outfit…
The base T20 which is TT never left the proving grounds the FG at least was used on the front line and not just to shoot sir Bucket head…
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Thank you I miss a weeaboo like you who thinks giving every rifleman a paratrooper weapon is WW2, ethe fact paratroopers were outnumbered 200 to one means nothing to you’re weeaboo brain of thank you for being the center of you universe. Not understanding making the,fg43 a rifleman’s weapon make monsters like the T20 essential. Then I’ll just give my soldiers clipboards and call them field researchers. If you can make thousands hundreds of thousand I can make dozens thousands.
I can appreciate your logic, I’ve been saying this for a really long time now. People love to complain about the t20, “because it wasn’t used”. It was more or less necessary for how the game was developed as it doesn’t and can’t depict what the war looked like in real life in it’s current state. It doesn’t replicate things like logistics and equipment shortages, like how often or how many people used any specific gun, and all the other reasons why germany lost the war. Before the prototypes were introduced, germany was basically hyper inflated to the max with endless supplies and constant access to the newest and best technologies meanwhile the u.s. was stuck in 1943 in game. You can’t get upset over a prototype when germany has all these advantages in game that aren’t real meanwhile getting to play pretend that time just froze in the most perfect time frame for germany. If the war continued even just another year’s time the u.s. would have also gotten new technology but people just can’t seem to deal with reality even though they cry about prototypes not being “real”.
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Hm hm - why not finally move select fire rifles to the MG class? That way some could technically even move to BR4, considering how limited MG gunners are.
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No - its is a rifle MG hybrid - which is why it mechanically switches from closed bolt to open bolt when setting the gun to full auto - which was done for cooling purposes, which is typical for MGs - even today.
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Automatic rifles are complicated and there are abobut 4 different arguments for what to do with them, based on history
- AR stay with Riflemen: post war AR became the standard issue rifle of nations such as the M14 and FAL and they are technically infantry rifles
- AR moves to MG: some AR were used to provide squad fire support such as the BAR and AVT
- AR moves to Assault: Assault is the class with automatic weapons and standard infantry did not use AR during the war
- New Automatic Riflemen class: Assault style troops only used smgs and assault rifles and AR were extremely rare
I lean most towards giving them to Assault
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General that is the first sane thing I have heard anyone say in a long time.
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What I don’t get is that out of all of the prototype guns in the game, why are we picking on a real gun, that was actually used? Sure, it was meant for paratroopers, my paras have Welguns…and we all know the story on those. It’s just a game, they’re just trying to give it some balance. Every faction has at least one automatic rifle for riflemen in the later BRs. I don’t know, it’s just kind of a meh issue for me.
That’s the point I am picking on the fg42 because people won’t leave the ,T20 alone. The T20 is only in the game because the fg42 is being used as an infantry rifle. Most German soldier wre armed with bolt actions rifles and smgs. Because the Germans are using the fg42 as a bs battle rifle or select fire depending how you call it.
The US needs the T20 in the game to balance a rifle that could not even arm the paratrooper core. Something like 150 000 paratroopers died in WW2 while only 2000 fg,42 and 4000 fg42 2s where made. So yeah when everyone treats the T20 as a fake gun but acts like every German soldier had a. Assault rifle mg42 or fg42 it irks me. When the T20 stops getting hate I’ll stop hating on the FG42. Or they could remove the sf guns or move them to mg slot, just get them out of the rifleman slit.
The wells gun is also limited to that para squad it’s not tech tree and cannot be used in other squads. The fg42 does not exist to balance other weapons, other weapons exist to balance the fg42 as a rifle. The bar would have more been a appropriate them18a2 or the m1922 valvar which had half as many built as the fg42 1,200. Small magazine high mobility and the ability to shoulder fire it. So if the fg42 is a rifle I would have just liked the bar ,m1a2 to be used and the M2 is carbinevadvan assaulter. Oh and remove scoped ars a sg guns from Germany.
Would make sense - but I feel there should be some kind of 20 rounder semi autos for BR5 to fill this gap, since Semi autos are already kinda weak in BR4…
Well or they could give high BR semi autos bolt action like damage and should remove all dispersion penalties.
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Exactly, high tier semi-autos would become the new meta weapons.
The common infantryman did not carry an automatic weapon. This would make the game a tiny bit more immersive. No longer would every single soldier be one man automatic killing machine, and makes Assault more important
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