If u want pain, play germans in battle for berlin, if u want to crush the opposition play russians, yeah its unbalanced!
PPsH and Soviet MGs: Much better
MG42, Baretta and FG: “Tricky”
In which world are Soviet MGs (significant) better than the German ones?
I got to use a Berrtta tonight - captured with 2 full mags - works just as well as any Soviet SMG from that 1 experience.
So right now there’s a bunch of German players thinking that Sov SMG’s are OP when they just got done by one of their own! 
I partly do agree with you, MP 3008 is way, way worse than than the PPS-42, MP 40 is admittedly worse than PPS-43. Now, PPSh-41 is indeed better in a close range than the MP 35/I or Beretta M38 but, these two German weapons are way more universal in medium range than the PPSh. There are many close range combats on Berlin but there are also many vast open spaces (some objective at Herman Goering strasse, Ministry Garden, or 3 last objective at Reichstag) where PPSh is a lot worse than the German counterparts. And the VG 1-5 this one is really bad one, just needs too many shots to kill at any range, while PPD-40 is a really relaible gun. However, I wouldn’t take VG 1-5 as SMG but rather as a semi-automatic gun, but wait it’s even worse than.
About MGs, DP-27 is a lot worse than MG 34, similarly DPM is a lot worse than the MG 42 and DT-29… hmm I would take that into consideration, maybe this one is better than the Patronentrommel.
The big issue is T-34-85 (D-5T) against Pz IV J these two tanks just don’t fit together, T-34 is better in every aspect. I don’t know if you’ve played War Thunder, there those two tanks wouldn’t even be together in a matchup (Pz IV J is BR 4.0, while T-34-85 (D-5T) is 5.3) Well, 85 mm cannon with APHE shells makes these two tanks even better than the Panther, although the Panther is a really powerful one.
Meh, if they nerf lmgs I’ll just (continue) playing soviets… I ALREADY use my ppsh or ppd like a lmg if there’s a German just a bit far, and he gets promptly deleted. Have you guys tried going prone with those smgs? They become laser beams it’s hilarious, and the distance damage reduction doesn’t matter much with the sheer amount of hot metal being spewed away.
Keofox said whole shooting while moving will reworked. So its not only lmg nerf
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Mmh makes sense. It won’t matter that much with my play style I think. I already take time to aim, and when I shoot and move, it’s point blank already so even if accuracy gets lowered it should still be fine. I’m just glad this mechanic will be a torn in the side of call of duty bunny hopers.
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I don´t even bother with Berlin anymore, and rather pretend it doesn´t exist. Random matchmaker is almost guaranteed axis with about half of teammates being bots, and playing soviet side is almost guaranteed PVE mode. (@ErikaKalkbrenner, I think this is probably as close to PVE as we can get for now)
It´s not even surprising that Berlin ended up so botched (I mean WT naval forces level of botched). That is what you most likely get when pre-release version gets hidden behind riddiculously high paywall. Not mentioning the “can´t progress without pack” logic, because nobody wants to roleplay as underpowered practice target.
But I would just repeat myself by saying that we raised our concern about this possible outcome way back during the CBT Berlin release.
So, this all is just a self-fulfilling prophecy that we all should have seen coming.
Hopefully Darkflow and Snail learned from this and Tunisia will be managed differently.
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Nope
If they won’t meet the fg-42 or mg34.
Nope.
G*rms can’t into teamwork but we still win somehow. Defeats happen only when we don’t have enough real players, but it’s not a big problem now (ofc it was back then, at berlin’s early days).
The only thing I can say is GIT GUD.
And stop complaining about “jermuney suferz”. Please.
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BuT GeRmAnY sUfFeRs
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Dude, Germany really suffers in earlier levels
T-34s are absolutely OP against Panzer IV
Git gud? You soviets one-shot panzer IVs or even Panthers from every angle
and that T-34 got better armor, better turret rotation, and better HE
And T-34s often camp with 85mm HE in the rear and no one could kill them
And Soviet SMGs are just cancer in most Berlin maps, nothing to say
Haven’t got to use Soviet MGs so I can’t say anything about that, but the MG34 is meh actually
Also, early German weapons are just bullshits: MP3008, Panzer IV J
The only “Balance aspect” in Berlin is maybe the planes bruh
Maybe try playing early German before roasting ppl
and Yes, late German is a bit better, but the suffering from the beginning will just make people sick
Well, it actually suffers in two situations.
First, you can have less than 9-10 level. Without mguns, with squads w/o engineers and without a stuka you actually provide less influence than you could.
Second, you can just be a germoid who don’t know about rally points and actually play as a sniper… in squads mode.
nah the mp3008 is great, same with kreigs kar and the only objectively bad german equipment is the pz4j
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i’m aware, i’m level 9 for both sides and almost lvl 10 for germans with my german line up being assault squad, radio squad, mg squad and bf109
Lol agreed
Sniper in squad is just cringe
But it’s alot of fun in lone fighter
Yes.
Yes. Btw I can’t look right now at which level stuka is. At 4th, I guess?
It perfectly counters T-34. Or even two.
You can easilly one-shot T-34 with your panther.
Or even a pz4.
Panzerfaust can kill them at all distances. Stuka also can.
Nope. Only at some cap zones, like 2nd point of Koenigsplatz/Troll opera or 2nd-3rd points of wilhelmstrasse. In other situations I’ll prefer lmg or autorifle.
G*rmtard.
How could I get the 26th lvl without playing early germans? They suck, they sucked even more. Still that’s not the reason to cry “reee germany’s unplayable”. Also mp3008 is not that bad… Still it sucks against pps.
A bit better…than soviets. Or not “a bit”.
Kriegs kar feels just like a normal and decent bolt action rifle for me
But I just can’t stand the fire rate (compared to the PPD and PPsh things)and that big ugly sight on th mp3008 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i guess it shows that type of weapons since i love the grease guns
No it suffer greatly with easiest attacks (that they still fails miserably many times)
And worst semiauto rifles(fg42 cant be counted as semiauto by some germt*rds cause it was lmg irl but avs36 can despite being battle rifle, great GeRmy LogIc here)
Even their lmg’s are not accurate as soviet’s dead ray dp27.
their spawns are to far for cap points(cause no one builds rallys and it should not be required while equally far away spawns are ok for soviets cause there is rally points in game)
mayby i missed couple other ones…
??? never noticed accuracy difference between the 2 lmgs since the dinnerplate has worse climb but better sideways recoil??? but the only thing german does suffer in is players that can think and breathe at the same time