Thanks for fixing berlin - and fucking it over again (Summer reward)

They fucked up Axis completely. Almost every battle is filled with new Soviet squads. I played today and the battles last less than 5 minutes. These aren’t even battles, it’s a walk for soviets. Job done, some people enjoy playing, others can fuck off, if they don’t play the “right” side.

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You can chose both sides! (if you pick the wrong one you will be punished)

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Argument: Weight, Recoil, Drum Size, ROF
vs.
Argument: “Godly”

You come with shit like “godly”… what makes the MG34 godlier than the PPSh41?
Sorry, but can you not hip fire your PPSh41 in CQ? Is there a Komissar behind you that shoots you, as soon as you hipfire your PPSh41, because Stalin wants you to aim?

Is the MG34 better at hipfiring in CQ than the PPSh41 and how?

MG34 is godly yes, like god - claims made about how good it is are exagerated and no proof provided. Its great power only exists if you already believe that it does and anybody not agreeing with you is obviously an uneducated peasant.

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weight is meaningless since you can just get a knife out and not be effected by the weight of the weapon, drum size is still fairly big especially with the 75 round drum and the 75 round drum has the same reload time as the 50 round drum, lower ROF isn’t a bad thing since you can actually converse ammo and not sneeze it all out. now onto the large difference; damage now let’s compare ppsh with the 71 round drum vs the mg34 with 75 drum. mg34’s damage: 12, ppsh 5.5, now the average soldier has 10 hp before downing with medikit with an addition 5 more hp before dying. so that would be a 2 shot for confirmed kill for mg34 and 3 for ppsh. ok good we got that now we divide the amount of ammo they have with the amount it takes for them to kill, so for mg34 it would be 37 soldiers killed and a downed soldier before a reload in the most ideal situation. ppsh 41 will kill 23 with a half health soldier before a reload, again ideal situation.

but these both are considered problematic weapons so it’s a good idea to increase the recoil on them anyways

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So you can run with your gun, be slow and be shot easily, or you can pull out your knife and be shot even easier (since you re not shooting back) :wink: I get your point, but I hope so do you mine.

And yes, the 75 round drum reloads as fast as the 50, but they are still around 60% longer than the PPSh41.

About ammunition efficiency - I believe the fact that the PPSh has less recoil and that it is select fire helps alot in ammunition management. The high recoil of the MG34 will cause a lot of problems if the first 1 or 2 rounds of the burst miss.

And if the MG34 can really benefit from those points so greatly, why wouldn’t the DT-29? Everything you said apply to it as well :slight_smile: And I rarely see anybody using it. Myself included. I always have a soldier equipped with it, but I never use him… Why would I? (playing Lone Fighter almost exclusively)

But I must agree - the damagepotential of the MG34 is good :slight_smile: But it’s hard to translate that into effective damage, if you understand what I mean :slight_smile:

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ah then we are coming from 2 different worlds since i mostly squads where the mg34 is terrifying while smgs are useful in CQC but there is always another guy there ready to shoot you though yeah both mg34 and ppsh/ppds do need have a recoil nerf

For starters it doesnt make sense to compare an SMG with an MG. Lets ignore that. In comparison the MG-34 is way better than the PPD/PPSh for the simple reason that it can kill you way easier and also in game rn it behaves like an smg, on the way you can shoot on move etc (idk know if this realistic or not, if it is then it is fine).
Also MG-34 and 42 are by far the best MGs in game (they should be). Trying to even compare the DT-29 with an MG-34 is lets call it unsuccessful

Yes, but I often try to keep in mind that most people play squads.
And besides, the guns are still the same, just less of an HE shit fest on my side :smiley:

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yeah squads is pretty insane with spam especially from CAS and grenades but have a good day man

the free version of “welcome to our premium squads strungles”…

its so stupid to have limitations on the squads…

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Its not easier to kill with an MG34. If your first shot misses, good luck because you are not going to control that recoil. If you are the type of person that is a very good shot and doesn’t miss with the first shots, you might as well use a VG1-5 or G43 and be more mobile.

And behave like an SMG is a bit of an exageration if you have ever tried running with it.

And I would love to hear what @Rickyd123 would say to the DT29 since it pretty much embodies the benefits of the MG34 for the sovjets :slight_smile:

That the FG42 is better than its sovjet counterpart the AVS-36 is clear. I agree and I also think they should either nerf the FG42 (which shouldnt be a normal infantry gun in the first place imho) or buff the AVS.

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i don’t have any options on it since i’ve not have one, seen one, or used one though going off of the stat card it has a higher recoil though it’s still lower than the BAR

This isnt correct, as long as you go for short burst and not full brrrrt the recoil is meaningless. It kills easier than an SMG as long as you know how to handle it. I havent use the VG 1-5 yet, but i have the gewehr 43. You cannot even compare it with a MG-34, like come one.

This isnt correct again. Having played both of them the MG-34 is just a better gun in all aspects

You cannot say, that recoil is meaningless in short bursts, no matter how short your burst, your point of aim still moves more than it does with an SMG. The reset time it will take you, to get your aim back on target is still greater and you can not tell me, that you can keep aim at a guy mostly behind cover as easily with an MG34 as with a PPSh. And you dont have to. With that higher ROF some rounds are just bound to hit the guy.

I am only saying that for people who think they always hit perfectly on their first shot. (And dont bother with the VG1-5 its a shittier version of a G43… The only thing it has over the G43 is mag capazity, it should honestly be an infantry gun before the G43. The only connection it has to anything “assaulter”-like is that it uses the same mags and cartridges as the STG-44.

Me saying the DT-29 should be great is in response to the arguments that Rickyd123 has put forward, mainly, that the MG34 has a lower rate of fire, higher damager and ok reload.
The DT29 has an even lower rate of fire, does the same damage and reloads faster.

As I said

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PPK is a four man squad with a PPS that fires slightly faster with a like 20% smaller mag
Just shoot them

Yes just shoot them… and the other 30 people on their team, because rarely anybody plays germany right now (at least in Lone Fighter Mode, its essentially PvE now) and who is it you shoot? Is it the guys that play like 30 minutes a day? nope. its the guys that did all the tasks and are somewhat dedicated and mostly therefore a bit better and more experienced than the average player. I am not a bad player, but how am I supposed to fight 30 people decent - good players alone…

The problem isnt the gun, its that all the decent - good players are now of course playing sovjets on berlin…

Why give us 6 choices as to where we want the sword, but none for the final reward?

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I’ve won every match I’ve played as Germany today except for one, idk what to tell you.
The PPK is mediocre at best and the squad is gimped to four men.
:man_shrugging:

Nice that it isnt affecting squads then. played 3 matches on berlin today, 2 with sovjets, 1 with germans, all 3 won by sovjets in under 10 minutes.

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I don’t play LF because it’s not quite there yet in terms of what I want from it, and it’s got a much much lower playercount so I really can’t offer perspective on it without being dishonest.
Hope it gets better once the flavour of the week dies down.

you shut your mouth, it’s amazing so says the american carbine purist

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