Thanks Darkflow

Im not going to argue the basics of democracy with you ma dude. No one is asking for tigers, there is a reason for that.

People have asked for tigers actually. Several times. So we should add them because majority rules as you said. The majority can’t possibly be wrong.

Making the plane spawn 30 seconds away from the battlefield might not be good enough. Because the tier 2 planes are far too strong and can travel at twice the top speed that would mean 30 seconds is only 15 seconds for high level players. Inversely, it would mean 60 seconds of travel time for newer players if you doubled the distance to account for faster planes.

Players can still remain clustered and not yet engaged in the first 30-60 seconds of the battle in the case of invasion. They can still be capping early points in the case of conquest. People load in late as well. I agree it would be nice if the player could lock the spawn in or do something related to flying while they wait. But anything short of stopping bombers planes from playing for a minute will result in massive 25+ no skill kill feeds.

A lot of people actually are, just like with KV-1s for Moscow. Thank god most people do not like those ideas, but at the same time, most people do not have the brain capacity to capture the first point on D-Day, let alone to think through all of the potential fixes for an issue. They are mostly like “How do we want it fixed?” “WE DONT CARE!” “When do we want it fixed?” “WE WANT IT FIXED NOW!”

Once again, yes, a fix was needed, but this fix is absolutely garbage. We too want the infantry to be able to spawn safely. However, we do not want that be at the cost of being able to properly play planes.

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I didnt see the majority of this forum ask for tigers so your point is moot. Also I dont say the majority can’t be wrong. The majority is listened to, those are two completely different things.

Developers have their own brains. They are capable of thinking of proper solutions for a problem raised by the community. So we can still critique a change if we think it does not adequately fixes the issue, or creates another issue instead.

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Have a nice day guys, im out of this argument.
Im going to play the game that they fixed in a way that makes me really happy with the game I love.

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I haven’t played yet today, but the A20 spam happens through the entire match, so I don’t see this helping with that at all.

Yup. It only prevents the initial spam - which could prevented in better ways that would also solve other spawn camping issues - and punishes players who just enjoy flying planes.

But people only seem to think up until the first - in that sentence, so here we are, with another shit “fix”

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It’s just sad. I miss the time when you can kill 30+ at the opening of a battle with Ju188.

It’s only fair that went away.

I personally only miss being able to fly my plane to begin with at the start of the match.