Tank unbalance in Stalingrad

Tank warfare in Stalingrad is played at an extreme disadvantage on one side.

  1. Basic tanks: T-70 and Pz.III

If you look at the structure of the armor plate, the front armor of the Pz.III is 50mm and the front armor of the T-70 is 35mm, so the T-70 may look disadvantageous. However, this is one of the little tricks. Since the T-70 is a 60-degree inclined armor, it is actually about 60 to 70 mm effective.
Here, we can primarily see the disadvantages of the German basic tank.
The penetration of the Pz.III shells at 60 degrees is only 29 mm. When facing the T-70 from the front, it cannot penetrate the front hull.
The T-70, on the other hand, penetrates 70 mm of armor plate at 0 degrees. This means that you can easily penetrate a Panzer 3 from the front.

  1. T-34 and Pz.IIIN

You should also be aware of the armor plate problem.
The armor plate of the Panzer III N is protected by additional armor of 50 mm and 20 mm.
Thus, the front of the hull can defend against the T-34’s AP shells from some angles.
The T-34 has a sloped armored plate with an efficiency of over 80mm.
However, the Pz.III N’s AP shells cannot penetrate it from any angle.
If you want to pierce the T-34, you have to hit the turret with a shotgun shell.
The second disadvantage can be seen here.
The T-34 is fairly reliable and can be killed using 76mm armor-piercing grenades, while the Pz.
And, although the Pz.III has a fast rate of fire, it can actually use only 30 shells. The continuous fire ability is also inferior to the T-34.

  1. KV1 and Pz.IV F2


I won’t explain much.
The armor of the KV-1 is quite thick. The gun shield is covered with several iron plates, so it cannot be penetrated by 75mm cannons.
Also, due to structural issues, the KV1 can get kills through the turrets of the Pz.IV, but the Pz.IV cannot do it against the KV1. The survivability is also overwhelming with the KV1.
Also, the KV1 is completely impenetrable with the Pz.III J, but the Pz.IV can stably penetrate even with the T-70.

  1. STZ and Pz.IV G

The STZ is not different from the general T-34 because only the body armor is reinforced.
The Pz.IV G also has only reinforced body armor, so there is no difference from the Pz.IV F2.
But still have the same problem. Pz. IVG can still do one kill just by piercing the turret. However, the T-34’s survivability is quite high, as only two crew members are killed even if it penetrates the turret.

  1. StuG III F and T-34 (1941)

The 1941 T-34 had a gun with improved penetration.
The StuG, on the other hand, still uses the same grapes as the Pz.IV, has a 50mm frontal armor and has no turret, which is quite disadvantageous. Not only is there a lot of blind spots due to the lack of a turret, but the crew members lined up in a row will die in one hit wherever they are hit.

To solve these problems, you have to change the entire tank level.
At least, KV1 can be a little more stable against Pz.IV G-type and H-type or higher.
You need a Pz.IIIJ1 or L with better anti-tank performance than the Pz.IIIJ.
The Stug III should be placed at a much lower level, and requires an F/8 type (with 20mm increased armor), not an F type.
Type 3N requires a combination of shaped charge rounds and high explosives, not a combination of armor-piercing rounds and shaped charge rounds.

This is the minimal change needed right now: it will be more balanced than before, but Germany still has some disadvantages in tank warfare.

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This probably gonna be fixed adding a kv1 (zis) vs a tiger 1

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PzIIIN can one shot t34 and Kv1, use Heat don’t look for pen all the time, tip for you…

Wo care i want the tiger

KV-1 is the obvious one. Takes 10x the effort to kill it than it needs to kill anything else, and it’s a relatively low level unlock so it gets spammed every battle.

I climbed on top of one, strapped TNT to it, and detonated it, and all it did was start a fire.

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Tnt on the driver hatch frontally instant kill it

I don’t care, you don’t have to put in half that effort to kill tanks that are higher level unlocks than that.

Again, it requires 10x the work to kill it than vice versa, and “technically it’s killable” is a cop-out.

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Press spacebar and left click on the driver set is high-effort?

Lmao

Compared to the point-and-click soviets need to instakill anything German, absolutely.

Not that you believe your own bullshit cope anyway.

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Still is a low-effort kill with infantry even grb can do some damage, if want talk about tank vs tank is a darksouls level of hardness, but on foot, is a joke

more effort than you’ll ever put in

Nah i dont think almost all my tank kill in axis stalingrad are kv and we talk about of 5k of tank

yeah sure and I killed 3 billion tigers with the nagant revolver

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or you can just left click it with the opposite unlock, the F2, you can also call a bombing run…you should probably use bombing runs in stalingrad

so long as nothing shoots in the F2’s general direction and instakills it

that is pretty easy in stalingrad with the rubbles about also with the enlisted distances angling a kv-1 wouldn’t save it because you can just shoot the turret twice and ammo rack it, also USE FUCKING BOMBING RUNS

And the KV-1 can’t?
You’re asking me, again, to put in 10x the effort of the KV-1 what the chimp using it can do without thinking and without having to worry about a T-70 ammo racking you with a potshot.

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so pointing and clicking is more effort than pointing and clicking? riiiight

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“how is [insert something the Soviets never need to do] so difficult? Come on it’s not imbalanced”
~every Soviet main ever

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“waahh i have to use my brain cells so it must be OP”-every single fucking german main to date

also i ain’t a soviet main sweety :wink: