how you figure that one… learn what map design is and we’ll talk
that doesn’t tell you anything about how DF design their maps.
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True and in this scenario, where the infantry attacks your tank frontally rather than from sides you most likely are playing against bots which probably dont even have detpacks.
Making this example of yours entirely irrelevant.
with current MG’s ? Right.
No, this was definitely new information.
And your task is to stop enemy squads reinforcing that cap point.
Press X, your bots stay in place. Choose the most useless soldier.
Charge without fear of dead near enemy tank → detpack → Done.
Not to even mention if you have the AT soldier in your squad you dont even have to sacrifice any of your soldiers since you kindly drove the tank to range of AT weapons.
I wonder how come ive achieved rather high win rate, without tanks driving near cap points.
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Sure… im sure you have rigth darkflow developers first draw the gryzone line and after build the map despite be last thing to do because they work after drink vodka…
Understantable have a nice day
that’s not what i said, can you please stop making assumptions and constructing baseless strawmen to knock down?
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How many “participation award” type of incentives do you want to give monkeys in order to have them play the game properly huh ?
Please stop.
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So why cant engineers repair tanks? Why binding repair tools to person instead of binding them to tank? you know, if anyone wants to repair tanks then they can repair and consume tank’s repair kit.
And the most serious proble with tanks are passing ability. A kingtiger can be stopped by a spotlight or even a flattened truck remain
What’s your proof that it’s bad though? You can’t ask for proof of something without having any evidence yourself. Also it’s better not to be a condescending dick when ideas are suggested.
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How nerf tank damage and armor resistence outiside a box of 50m can be good? And how what is written in the main post can be applied withaut a full rework on the map?
I asked the same at OP him dont answered he simply fall back
So…
Lest see what you can do MR lawyer of bad suggestions
I put my counter argoument here again
I don’t 100% agree with him, you were just being aggressive and rude without putting forth any other solution, not even stating that there should be no change, if that’s what you believe. I believe reducing the gray zone would be a better solution so tanks can be destroyed by infantry if they camp in the gray zone. Some maps are more difficult to traverse, but they are not impossible. With your Monastery point, it’s literally only the gate that is the issue, elsewise it is fine. With Quarry, it’s only certain parts although gray-zone camping is the worse there.
Also, none of that is proof, that’s just your opinion on the matter. You aren’t the best player of the game and I bet there are people who can work past all the things you deemed as issues. It is easier to camp in a zone where infantry cannot touch you, which can be assumed as what you due based on your responses. Still presented no evidence or facts on the matter.
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There are some good points in this, and some not so good points.
This I can agree with.
I don’t think tanks should get extra points for kills. However, they should get points for blocking bullets, get extra points for destroying fortifications, and let them activate AP mines with the tank, giving points for any that are set off.
The problem here is that sitting in smoke is a BAD thing. Proper use of smoke is to block enemies’ line of sight, not your own. So instead of using it on yourself and not being able to deal with approaching enemies, you should be using it to block their line of sight, so when they come through it, they are exposed to your fire.
This I agree with.
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There is no other solution withaut a full map rework, i already wroted 20th times here that the gray zone is based on the map design is not something you change how do you like
And the road full of hause?
- The trench wo stop attacker tank at start to flank?
- The bridge wo can be blocked for the eternity placing a tank on it same as the main gate?
- the destroyed wall wo can be clogged with czeck head and tank mine?
Quarry is pit if you want use the tank you need stay outiside the pit, go inside the pit and you die because you get flanked or another tank camper kill you
A dude be less rude i posted counter argoument if Op and friend and even you are to stupid for read them and refuse to accept my opinion, is your problem
IM NOT the best player but i played sufficientely to know all map good and bad, and for this OP suggestion is a shit no more or less, we have tons of this stupid idea in the past asking for nerf tank in their playable area wo always ended in nothing
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Personally, I believe incentivizing tanks to leave the greyzone, and only allowing explosive packs (or anti-tank grenades) to AT troops. There are at least 6 other effective ways of killing tanks. There is a whole chunk of this that needs to be rebalanced, as the game isn’t intended for infantry to be the only useful thing. Everything should play its role, but when one thing (all infantry getting access to AT equipment i.e. explosive packs) overshadows everything else, then balance issues arise.
Let me ask you this: In comparison, how many people do you see running around with explosive packs in comparison to how many people are using AT rifles, launchers, or mines?
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The proof for this?
Could be solved by expanding boundaries of the map.
Could be solved by providing a way to destroy or remove these.
The czech hedgehogs can be dismantled
That is why grayzone needs to be reduced so infantry can destroy those camping tanks.
This is fair, I do believe that AT grenades should come to replace explosion packs and be AT troopers only. The Soviet AT Rifles are really bad at times, depending on the tank.
Stupid as rambo? Go read how the grey zone is placed in the fps, is simple googled
And? It need rework both attacker and defender spawn zone, spawn zone natural protection for dont get spawn killed, the objectives cap…
Yea a 5 minute work
True but now we cant do it, im basing all my argoument on the current game not an immaginary one
SURE,main gate clogged with tank wreck and all player are around the wall Breach wo is full o mine and czeck head
Yea A simple job dismantle them (you at least have read my example?)
And again you do the work for rework the map? At lest you can put a simple layout of the new map with new spawn and grey zone? Or you are asking this to santa
Because spoiler this is not a suggestion is a request
I dont want be a dick but this is one of the many stupid suggestion topic wo ask change on tank and greyzone withaut even tink what it mean do this change and if is possibile get here
Google what? Which dev stated that they could not reduce the existing gray zone for a map? You telling me to google something the devs likely haven’t commented on isn’t proof.
So you admit things like this can be changed and it would be easy for the devs to do so.
Well the current topic is “Tank Improvements” so it’s not impossible to be added in with the other suggested changes.
Well, those are literally the designated purpose for both of those things. At this point why not remove them from the game if you don’t like them that much for doing what they were designed to do?
No, we’re in suggestions so it is meant for the developers of the game to see in order to implement into official maps. So making a custom map serves no purpose as Darkflow isn’t paying me to make their official maps like they are their developers.
How the grey zone in map is added for the “FPS” more specific, what need be taked in account wen you are going to add a grey zone in your map
please dont be so stupid im saying we need a map rework from 30th post now, admit what?
I sayed the same to OP and rambo only for be ignored and i posted this messagge to you before, this mean you dont even read my counter argoument in this topic
AND no is not aa 5 minute work, it need time and detication
Lawyer of bad suggestions is a good name for you for real
The current topic is tank improvement but talk only about tank nerf and infantry passive score buff
Because those are designeted like this force the tank to go in the wall Breach for support the infantry is insane or otherwise as OP posted the tank can only watch his kameraden get killed because he have 50% less armor and damage if not is on the point
But withaut an example of how it gonna work is a request not a suggestion, a suggestion on this can be change the side or point of attack/defense on some map for avoid player exploit some map place for camp
you are the stupid one here, who thinks that integral elements such as where you can/cannot go is NOT map design. you are the quintessential enlisted player - stupid, ignorant, unable to admit he is wrong, and terrible at the game, all while somehow spending all your time playing and discussing it.
you have an exceedingly poor grasp of the english language.
I like the idea of incentivizing players to support tanks with infantry. Players should get a nice assist bonus for every kill near a friendly tank, and maybe an on screen message can pop up when a player is near a friendly tank that lets them know the tank needs support.
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