Tank commanders firing with smg machine gun in tank

I have experienced a couple of times being shot by the commander in German tanks, by SMG.

I have looked at the setup and tried my hand, but can’t see a way to do it?

If it is an option in the game, how do you do it??

Most tanks with a dedicated commander hatch, you can press B or 8 by default I think to swap to your primary weapon, its good trap for infantry on vehicles that dont have a pintle mount.

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