T-50 is still absurd and still must be nerfed

[Winter_Storm]

@Upolaf

it’s his presence on every map since it come from a golden order. You can use it lvl 1 while it’s a lvl 29 tank

You mean like the pz3j?

[Upolaf]

Yes. Except PZ3J is shit compared to T50:

• Less resistant.
• shit against infantry (1min turret rotation speed, try it you will understand).
• as a defavorable matchup with tanks of his level. You can be kill sometime by lower lvl tanks. Have you ever been killed by low level tank with a t-50?

Basically, the PZ3J is good against tanks only (shit against infantry), but only when there is no T28 (average matchup) and no T50 (very very bad matchup).

The T50 is a PZ3J without the 3 bad points mention above.

[JoJoMaster420]

If you get it you will love it It just melts tanks

Yeah, so far my only experience with it was when my BT7 suddenly exploded.

With AT Rifle the only way to pen it from my experience is on the back turret but that goes out the window in this situation ^^

Yeah. You either get blocked by the border or the horde of russians that it’s always hiding behind. So back turret having 15mms of armor is a nice weakspot on paper.

To add T-50 weak spots is on its cheeks from the front

Yes, I have been able to pen there countless times. Shame the broken weapon hitboxes eat up my 75mm AP with the crew turning yellow at most.

Its an powerful tank but also an high level one so should be

by high level yo umean every russian has it cause you can get it lvl 1 with gold order?

[CRO_SkyGuard]

@Upolaf

But the worst thing about the T-50 is not its armor, it’s his presence on every map since it come from a golden order. You can use it lvl 1 while it’s a lvl 29 tank.

You do know that you can also buy the Panther for a gold order in Berlin and use it with the starter tanks squad?

@Upolaf

There is more salt when you are killed by OP weapon like T-50, AVS, PSSH while you run around with your 450rof gun smg, 5s reload gewehr41, max armor tank PZR III

Okay go play Tunisia then if it is such a problem to play the MG-34 and Mkb-42 to counter allied weapons.

@Upolaf

In Berlin, you got a nice tank, it will not save you. You got a good tank? nice, it will not save you. In Moscow, (T-50) it will, in Normandy (Panther) it will.

Is it that hard to cook a det pack and kill a tank? Most maps have enough cover to sneak over to a tank and destroy it. The only map in Moscow where you could have trouble destroying tanks with det packs is Quarry in that case you build an AT gun and destroy it or just bomb it.

[Srg_Steiner]

Yeah i hate that turret rotation asw. I went back to PNZ4 after i tried it couple of matches. Wonderful armor but overall its to clunky

[JoJoMaster420]

The 3J can be killed with 0 issues by the T26. Front plate, front turret. 1 shot it’s incapacitated, 2 shots it’s dead. Try doing that against a T50 with a pz3B

[Srg_Steiner]

Thats where the new kitchen gun comes in The holy GRB which you unlock before the 3j

[JoJoMaster420]

Is it that hard to cook a det pack and kill a tank? Most maps have enough cover to sneak over to a tank and destroy it. The only map in Moscow where you could have trouble destroying tanks with det packs is Quarry in that case you build an AT gun and destroy it or just bomb it.

Get out from under the rock you live. More than half of the maps in Moscow have issues with tanks greyzoning.

[CRO_SkyGuard]

If you get killed by the T-26 in any tank that is not a Pz. II that is most defintley a skill issue.

[_mortebianca]

[Veekay45]

@Srg_Steiner

GRB-39 = Problem solved.

If this was a started weapon, sure. I don’t have it unlocked.

[Srg_Steiner]

Would be to powerful to be an starter

[JoJoMaster420]

Gotta waste those tickets somehow, so my team can’t push the points!

[Winter_Storm]

@Upolaf

Less resistant

In what way since t-50 is putting all of it’s eggs in 1 basket since 3/4 crew are in the turret

@Upolaf

shit against infantry (1min turret rotation speed

So is t-50 because of its shit traverse with much less ammo per MG compared to the panzer 3J…also in mind that t-50 has a weak spot called the entire fucking turret

[_mortebianca]

Yeah so we need to balance the game on the inability of axis players to push the point.

[Srg_Steiner]

They need to learn how to take other routes and smoke if needed ^^

[JoJoMaster420]

Well, not really. It’s basically a driving AT gun. Easy to kill, but if you have the element of suprise, a t26 can kill any axis tank in moscow.
It’s ironic, but taking down a 3J in a t26 is as easy as it is the other way around.

[Upolaf]

@CRO_SkyGuard

You do know that you can also buy the Panther for a gold order in Berlin and use it with the starter tanks squad?

@Upolaf

Don’t believe me? Just Imagine a golden order lvl 1 Panther in Normandy.

duh.

@CRO_SkyGuard

Okay go play Tunisia then if it is such a problem to play the MG-34 and Mkb-42 to counter allied weapons.

I do. I’m lvl 20.

@CRO_SkyGuard

Is it that hard to cook a det pack and kill a tank? Most maps have enough cover to sneak over to a tank and destroy it. The only map in Moscow where you could have trouble destroying tanks with det packs is Quarry in that case you build an AT gun and destroy it or just bomb it.

That the same argument you could say to somenbody who think the Panther is cheated in Normandy.
Yet it is.

[CRO_SkyGuard]

@JoJoMaster420

More than half of the maps in Moscow have issues with tanks greyzoning.

There are forests and hills everywhere where you can flank them and throw a det pack on them, you will lose that soldier from greyzone damage but its defintley woth it.
Moscow is my most played campaign so I should know that.

[JoJoMaster420]

Kinda hard if there’s only 2 other lvl 10+ players on your team, while there’s at least 5 lvl 20+ russians.
And also, everything the germans have is worse than it’s russian counterparts, except for the LMGs and pistols.