And CoD gameplay creates things you can’t counter unless you pay? Don’t be ridiculous.
The stuka is free. Both of them.
you dont need to pay to counter it, you want to use a tank use the tank and dont cry that a grey zone t50 killed you.
if you want to be smart and destroy it use a plane, bc you want to use only the tank it doesnt mean that the t50 is OP.
btw you have at least unlocked the PZ IV E?
No shit Sherlock, thanks for enlightining me. Nobody is asking for full historical accuracy (let alone the fact T-50 was nowhere to be seen around Moscow). Rather balance.
No, they don’t. Everything just needs to not be blanantly OP and have a counter available.
I am a T-50 driver too and I don’t drink vodka. Only samogon. You are misinformed.
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If the game let me switch midgame between tanks and planes, that would be totally fine and balanced. Just like BF does.
Well then, there’s only one possible solution left for your issue.
@gastanofrizzi , where is your trademark “skill issue” meme?
You are the only one crying in this thread with nonsense claims of “game design”.
If I want to use a tank, that doesn’t mean there should be things I am absolutely unable to counter. That’s now how game balance works. It’s mindblowing how you’re defending a mechanic that prevents fair play.
Yeah that’s called game balance. How often do you see in online games stuff that’s nearly impossible to kill unless you pay/spend months grinding? Yeah. never, because that’s not how games work.
That is literally what the T-34-85 is like against the Panther in Berlin, the T-34 has to aim at turret weakspots while having a slower reload.
Nerf the T-50? nerf the Panther aswell.
Or don’t nerf anything, because both are fine as they are 
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rn the only revenue fonts of this game are premium and premium squads how you think this will go if DF just casually give all the players the current benefits of premium players?
you can just not from distance.
yeah this game is not based on a conventional balance system
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Thanks bro 
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Its apperently too hard for players to aim for weakspots, any tank they see and cant one shot anywhere is instantly OP.
I personally dont like the T-50 and prefer the T-28 even though that thing cant pen a Pz. II from the front.
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GRB-39 = Problem solved. PNZ 4 and Stuka works to. Think i killed one with the PNZ3j asw but its a bit harder
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I think you might have the wrong idea of how online games work. If there is no balance, as soon as more players unlock/discover the OP stuff, the population will dwindle.
I am not really asking for free premium, however choosing between tanks/planes ingame just sounds like a good game design feature. I am asking for T-50 to be pennable like other tanks.
Instead of having the 1% chance like @Upolaf described when the turret is facing your way and the T-50 doesn’t annihilate half tour crew with an instant shot.
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Absolutely agree.
If a T50 is greyzoning, your only real option is to suicide bomb. And if you don’t bring a plane with large enough bombs, or the Enemy has multiple T50s, you can’t even do that. Besides, it wastes too many tickets, so I wouldn’t consider it a valid solution.
Now, for the other AT weapons:
Detpack: Only works if the T50 is dumb enough to get close to the battlefield.
AT rifle: Don’t have the GRB, so not sure about that one, the rest don’t work.
20mm: No way.
37mm: Still nope. You can pen unangled side and rear turret, possibly side beneath the tracks if it’s absolutely 0m, 0degreees. That’s basically it. Not a valid solution.
75mm: Works on flat side beneath the tracks (only the front third or so though, rest gets eaten by unimportant modules), side turret if not angled and rear turret. i’ve heard people say you can pen front turret, but I believe these people are just looking at stats and never faced a T50 in a pz4. 9/10 times the shell gets eaten by the gun/mg, or just misses due to horrible accuracy. Not a great solution.
50mm: Engineer build is way too slow. You just get sniped while building (if you’re lucky enough not to, you just get blown up by the t50). Pen seeems to be basically the same as the 75, with more tolerance for angles, but less devestating post pen. On the 3J I’d the situation is basically the same as with the pz4. Only advantage is the better accuracy.
TLDR: The T50 is op and can’t be dealt with if used by someone with a working brain and more than 20 hours in this game. The germans need an early game younter that isn’t suicide bombing. Maybe a sturmpanzer or something in place of the useless pz3B if that’s historically feasible.
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First.
So you understand that I may be biased but I know my shit.
Panther are powerful in Berlin, but tanks doesn’t matter, it’s an infantry map. Big city, lot of building, lvl 6 Panzerfaust.
In normandy Panther are monstruosity since RPG come later and map are more big and open. But at least with the Panther in Normandy, you have to grind for days for it.. But yea that’s as cheated as the T50.
But the worst thing about the T-50 is not its armor, it’s his presence on every map since it come from a golden order. You can use it lvl 1 while it’s a lvl 29 tank. Don’t believe me? Just Imagine a golden order lvl 1 Panther in Normandy.
In Berlin, you got a nice tank, it will not save you. You got a good tank? nice, it will not save you. In Moscow, (T-50) it will, in Normandy (Panther) it will.
When I play axis I prefers to lose in Tunisia, than to lose in Moscow. Because the weapon gap between axis and allied is more little in Tunisia:
There is more salt when you are killed by OP weapon like T-50, AVS, PSSH while you run around with your 450rof gun smg, 5s reload gewehr41, max armor tank PZR III (With his fucking long 1min turret revolution) being OS by T50.
In Tunisia, you try hard and feel good when people actually push all together, use rally, tag the tanks.
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I’m lvl 22 with axis in Moscow with a wn of 70% (I was lvl 15/20 days ago), only the bad ones that can’t deal with the “OP” stuff like you.
Can’t tell you much apart l2p, seriously stop getting stomped again and again and again by t50 and do something.
That IS a premium feature
Welcome to 45mm cannon t26 and bt7 can do the same thing, you don’t have 1% of chance apart for when the t50 is in Grey zone and in that case cas can easily destroy it.
If you get it you will love it 
It just melts tanks. With AT Rifle the only way to pen it from my experience is on the back turret but that goes out the window in this situation ^^
To add T-50 weak spots is on its cheeks from the front. Its an powerful tank but also an high level one so should be. But T28 is much easier to fight though which makes it weird.
500kg bomb from the stuka usually kills it but theres time ive seen it even bounce that
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