Well, if we were not shafted by the BR system, and if we had the normal AVT 40 (10) variant, then
AVS 36 (15) would be ok in limited numbers for Soviet Japanese 1939 combat, winter war 1939-40 and initial Barbarossa fighting (Minsk, Smolensk, Moscow).
AVT 40 (10) would be ok in limited numbers for 1942-1943 scenarios (Stalingrad, Rzhev), but they were cancelled and converted to SVTs after mid 1943 (Kursk).
AVT 40 (15) and AVT 40 (20) were nothing but failed experimental batches.
Ask forum guys for souces before trust - they just aint have anything to prove
Why you pretend you know something? Make sure - your words have some base, not just a thoughts
– There is an opinion that a Soviet soldier is such an “expendable material”, illiterate, incapable of independent combat operations. You caught the 43rd and 44th year. What is your impression?
Well, how can I say… I was drafted into the airborne division, they didn’t teach me much. In my opinion, everyone was inexperienced. We knew the war only from the stories of the old men - Voroshilov, Budyonny. They say there were not enough rifles at the front. I had a Simonov machine gun, ABC
on the Sredny Peninsula… - Its a far North
They brought us neat, large-print books on good paper: little Russian-German phrasebooks with drawings of outdated German T-III and T-IV tanks. They sent posters with silhouettes of German planes and navy ships. There were also silhouettes of our then newest Pe-2 and MiG aircraft. New gas masks, RGD grenades, new-shaped helmets, masks, Simonov self-loading rifles, machine guns, cartridges, and many shells were delivered to us for our venerable students from the Peter the Great tsarist factory. We delivered a lot of groceries.
So why you write here put erroneous statements passing them off as the truth? Or did all these veterans make a mistake at the same time? I won’t be surprised, now I’ll know.
On February 23, 1942, I was urgently recalled back to the Training Squad, but not to the Weapons School, but to the Communications School.
Once, an enemy boat appeared from Peterhof. He obviously wanted to pin us down, but we fought him off. The German planes were also not allowed to turn around much. We had automatic weapons and anti-tank rifles on our boats. We also fired planes directly from the boats. I went on the “six”. There were eight of us on board: a foreman, an assistant, and the rest were rowers. All are armed with 15-charge Simonov automatic rifles (ABC) and 10-charge SVT. You could say they were armed to the teeth. We sailors loved these rifles, but when I got to Estonia, I saw that the infantrymen were abandoning them for some reason. But it all depended on the command. I have already told you that they wanted to send me to a penal company because I did not lubricate my automatic rifle. After all, if you lubricate the shutter, and some kind of grain of sand gets there, then the shutter does not work. And so, because I ordered my people not to lubricate anyone, they wanted to send me to the penalty area. But on the other hand, our weapons always fired flawlessly, without delay. Nobody’s ever had anything stuck. And it’s the same in winter. If the shutter is lubricated, it does not work. And when you wash it with gasoline, kerosene or turpentine so that there are no liquid solidifying substances in it, it works perfectly. Armor-piercing incendiary bullets with a red-black bullet tip and tracer bullets with a green tip were used for shooting.
NKO Order on Withdrawal (1941):
The AVS-36 was officially discontinued in 1940 and withdrawn from frontline units by 1941 due to unreliability (jamming, sensitivity to dirt). Surviving rifles were transferred to training units or rear garrisons .
Weapon Loss Reports (1942–1943):
Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense (TsAMO, Fond 81, Opis 12038) show AVS-36 losses recorded only until 1941. For example, a March 1942 report from the 112th Rifle Division states: “No AVS-36 rifles remain; replaced by SVT-40” .
1944 TO&E (Table of Organization & Equipment):
Rifle Regiment TO&E No. 04/501 (effective 1943) lists no AVS-36. Standard arms: PPSh/PPS (108 units), SVT-40 (40 units), Mosin-Nagant rifles (1,200 units) .
2. Documentary Evidence for AVT-40
GAU KA Order No. 0270 (21 July 1943):
Banned automatic fire for the AVT-40 due to critical flaws: “Automatic fire causes bolt destruction, barrel warping, and stock breakage. Use only in semi-auto mode” .
GKO Decree No. 3531ss (September 1942):
Halted AVT-40 production in favor of the SVT-40. Factory No. 314 (Mednogorsk) retooled for SVT-40 production; existing AVT-40s were converted to SVT-40s .
Inspection Report of the 3rd Shock Army (January 1945):
TsAMO (F. 81, Op. 12038, File 220, Page 45) notes: “No Tokarev automatic rifles (AVT) in army units. Isolated SVT-40s used by snipers” .
3. Weapon Inventory Statistics (1944–1945)
Data from GAU reports (TsAMO F. 81, Op. 12038):
Logistical Streamlining:
NKO Order No. 0391 (10.05.1943) restricted frontline arms to PPSh, SVT-40, and Mosin-Nagants. Exotic systems (incl. AVS/AVT) were withdrawn .
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