Suggestion for a new weapon class: Automatic Rifle

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I was thinking, since there is little to no difference between low BR “machine guns” and high BR automatic “semi auto” rifles, maybe you could introduce a new weapon class, “Automatic rifle” where the BR changes depending on the soldier class that is currently using it. As in, if used by a machine gunner it’s a lower BR than if it’s used by any other class as a “semi auto” rifle. This way you could get a bit more variety across the BRs. I suggest the following weapons receive this treatment:

Machine gunner BR first then “Rifle” BR

Soviet:
AVS-36: BR II/III and BR V
AVT-40: BR II/III and BR V
Avtomat Fedorova: BR III/IV and BR V (It’s not a bloody assault rifle)
RPK-43: BR II and BR V
Gorov LMG: BR III and BR V

Western Allies:
All the BARs: BR III and BR V
M1941 Johnson LMG: BR III and BR V
T20 Rifle: BR III and BR V
T20E1 Rifle: BR III and BR V
WAR: BR III and BR V

Western Axis:
FG 42: BR III and BR V
FG 42 II: BR III and BR V
FN Model 1930: BR III and BR V
Lahti-Saloranta LS/26: BR II and BR V

Japan:
KE7: BR III and BR V
Type Hei Automatic Rifle: BR IV and BR V

One concern could be that once you’ve unlocked, for example, the first BAR you can rocket up to BR V immediately. One fix for this could be that you’d need to unlock a BR V weapon before being allowed to equip riflemen with them. There are also concerns about weapon handling and sprint debuffs, but I honestly think that’s a separate discussion.

Feedback is appreciated.

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There are hidden but important debuffs on machine guns but automatic rifles are not effected by them.
Machine guns suffer from but much worse ADS speed and running speed debuff, SF rifles without these nerfs in lower BRs would be nuts.

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Well, this could be solved by variable stats depending on class/BR, or nerfing a bit SF (there was a reason nobody actually used them as such IRL), but due to Dagor spaghetti code it’s probably impossible in our lifetimes.

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Well those could be one of the balancing changes, to add those debuffs to either one or both, or to remove them from those specif auto rifles.

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There’s pretty huge difference between them.

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I’d rather have buffed BAR as Allied BR V rifle than this bullshit T20 we currently have

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(besides the arbitrary sway and sprint debuffs)

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And basically any other stats like recoils, base dmg…

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.7 points of damage at most, none in Germany’s case. And "MG"s have a lot less recoil, all of these can be addressed without breaking anything