Suggestion about MMG and HMG dilemma

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Why? It will definitely been use more if they do so, since it is much easier to access. I will say that if you reverse the current situation, MMG to LMG squad, HMG to engineer 2 squad, HMG will be the one that no one will use.

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And optics, in the heavy machine gun roll they Often had optics attached

23

There are a number of problems in my opinion with the heavy machine gun role currently, there grotesquely over modeled as far as there Lethality against armor.

The MG 131 is a ridiculous choice, and fired electrically primed ammunition it wasnā€™t really used in the ground support role except an extreme situation at he end of the war.

As noted above a Lafayette mound for the MG 34/42 would be a better choice for the German heavy machine gun.

Or for Tunisia the Breda model 1931.

I think the reason that theyā€™ve given them to the machine gun squad is probably to limit them, but since the engineers are actually used less it would probably limit them further.

I personally find the Medium machine gun to be quite useful in game.

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Iā€™d say alleviate, rather than solve entirelly. It would basically be a poor manā€™s option, until HMG basically kicks it out, upon unlocking.

Because, from what I have seen in otherā€™s discussions, HMG is basically superior to M/LMG in pretty much every aspect:

  • It has better angles - meaning you can turn much more to the side/up/etc. M/LMG is very restrictive, from my experience, it requires some pixel hunting - especially on uneven ground, it takes very long to build, and is very cumbersome to use.

  • HMG also performs fairly well against vehicles, something that M/LMG canā€™t do.

The other detailsā€¦ I however have to try it myself when I get the chance.
Basically, folks will use L/MMG when they unlock engineer 1s with upgrade, for a few times, then switch to HMG when they unlock MG squad.
For L/MMG to remain viable in the face of HMGs, it needs some redeeming features - like lower cost, lower build times, easier to build, moving aroundā€¦

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Moving HMG to engineer squad and MMG to LMG squad wonā€™t fix it either.
Also, it give engineer squad more functionality, and restrict HMG to LMG squad can prevent spamming since you only have 2 engineer max.

People will be more likely using LMG squad to storm point rather than building HMG at the back, So MMG still has its place.

True.

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Yeah, itā€™s a discussion whether to make Engineer squads more jacks-of-all-trades-masters-of-none, or not, and whether to give LMG and other specialist squads more specific flavour - such as AT gunners getting access to better AT guns.

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From my perspective, the biggest change needs are

  1. Hmgs and mgs need to have some form of reloading and belt-level ammo limit. The total ammo can still be unlimited but, there needs to be a general break where the gun needs to be reloaded. The lack of reloads for hmgs is the most ā€œopā€ thing about them when combined with the easily manageable overheat. 20-50rds for hmgs depending on type, 100 rds for mgs. No animation is needed, just do it like in tanks. Hmgs should load slower.

  2. Normal mgs should have:

  • lower construction time (-30%),
  • lower overheat (-30%) and
  • Increased build limit of 2.
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