So, i enjoy playing as tanks, i`m about to unlock the second T-34, since the Berlin OBT i have yet to see a single SU-85T or its German counterpart.
So if anyone is using it or has seen it, is it good ? should i save up silver orders or should i just spend them on T 34 ?
well, as someone stated ( which it’s not wrong after all ).
those are more sidegrades.
like, more things to try without running low on content or getting bored quite quickly. different ways to get the job done.
and for the germans, the majority feels like that the panzer 4/70 it’s workse than a panther.
and i can somewhat agree due to it’s high profile, thin armor, and somewhat, same rate of fire of a panther.
the gun is… okish but not sure it’s better than the panther one.
therefore i can somewhat agree.
weather for the russian counterpart,
things are a bit different:
but, despite that, if your opponent knoes where to shoot, you either end up losing the gunner, or the driver quite quickly and after 1 shoot. ( frontally speaking, gunner to the right, driver to the left )
so that’s up to you.
like, if you like to play in a mobile bunker over the streets of berlin, than go for it.
but be weary of not exposing as possible your tracks, angle whenever you are reloading and try not to rush without infantry. than you should be somewhat fine. ( the same could be said about t34s since panthers are a thing ).
but if you don’t like it because doesn’t have a turett, than stick with the other t34.
if i was you, i might save silver orders for is2s.
inevitably, those will be a thing.
but i understand that the waiting could be long.
i run into them from times to times. like once every 3 or 4 matches. maybe there is some kind of matchmaking around levels coz i m facing high campaign stuff all the time. and thats good, i prefer to fight against better players.
@ErikaKalkbrenner
the pz IV/70 fully upgraded isnt bad. but that weak frontal armor plate does get the tank destroyed easly.
comparing the pz4 have a huge weak spot in the front armor and running a 75mm gun.Su running a 85mm d-5s
the only diference, SU85 doesnt have a Machinegun neither coaxial or on the superstructure.
both of them arent worth running in berlin as the batlefields in them demand a turret tank.
wouldnt change a panther or a t34 over none of them
yeah good point that i forgot to mention, the su does not have a machinegun…
Oh my, how crazy is that right? Why would I ever pick that tank then?
well, again, a sidegrade doesn’t have to be strictly better.
it’s just there for variety which never hurts.
after all, there are some folks that like that tank so.
always provide something different.
Perhaps when they add information about the armor penetration of guns, the su and pz \ 70 will look much more interesting.
Think they changed second t34 parts requirements… i could swear it was 1 silver per part, now its 2 silver per part !
There’s a fear factor to it, too: other tanks are the prime and often only targets of tank destroyers, and turrets being bugged still, I never know if a tank aims at me or at it’s own butt when I’m afar, so I risk myself a bit more. When a su. is facing you however… you know! And since those tend to get completely immobile when they found their mark (they can’t play peekaboo, they can only shoot frontaly) you can be certain the gunner is aiming his next shot at you very, very carefully when YOU pop out of your cover again. It’s a fun thing to use, but yes it’s not versatile like turret tanks.
Why would they? They use the same ammo as the previous vehicles. Unless they specifically give them APCR… But APCR won’t really be an improvement.
They have different guns,the pz4 \ 70 is a pak 42, not a kwk,and the su is a d 5 s, they could at least give them a faster-firing gun…
By the way, su is not su t,but su m.My eight doesn’t work, so I don’t write the number.
Saw one a couple days ago and it immediately got destroyed
I saw a Panzer IV 70 A once, and was killed one shot in the face by my t34 85 D5T lol, so I think the SU85M might be better since it doesn’t have any vertical armor 
both of the casemate tanks are basically worthless as long as they are in the same squad as the turreted tanks
all of their IRL advantages, lower profile, cheaper to build and mounting a bigger gun in a smaller chassis are useless in enlisted
