Stop the weapons duplication: Remove Fedorov and MKB-42 from the moscow campaign

I don’t know. Stuka-ing is always fun and ILs are quite capable.

But AP mine spam is true. No other campaign has so many mines.

IL2 dominate easely the sky. Because it’s more of an attacker/bomber.

The best Stuka strategy is to sucuide bomb if it’s spotted by a normal IL2 pilot.

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I’m down for historical :+1:t4:

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mkb and kyraly are in moscow for be transfered in stalingrad by F2P player withaut access, removing them from moscow is screwing the possibility of use them in stalingrad for free

a big NO!

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I don’t know what is the most improbable stuff:

  1. There is people playing stalingrad
    Or
  2. People who actually play it F2P.
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Well. Some sources claim that they still had some Feds for the first winters left.

Ehm Do you think people will like if their premium weapon will become free all of the sudden?
Besides, you need to perusade the devs and not me and I highly doubt thats a argument to persuade them.

Ahh But removing the Mkb and Avtom from Moscow kinda speak against that logic
“But they get compensated”. Yes, with a crap gun which is not a high level gun/ worth for painful Moscow Axis grind How nice. Same goes for the premium buyers. They wanted to own the AKT and I doubt you can just switch the bought product all of the sudden. That would be legally questionable. Same goes for gold order guns.
Weak argument I guess…

MP28 with 32 or 50 rounds, M38 40 rounds, MP35, Captured PPSh or PPD. Suomi

Still no! First game balance next historical accuracy

Otherwise

Go play aganaist soviet with all soldier armed with ppsh

Can’t you transfer them from normandy or berlin? They have MKb if I remember correctly.

There are no Mkbs. Only StGs.

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I mean… the soviet LMG dispertion is awefull.
When you unlock the AVS and PSHh there is no point of using something else.

It’s more a general problem with LMG in the game.

Thath is the mp43 and the gold order version

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German is worse

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German lmg dispersion is even worse, their smg are even 2X worse

Personally, i wouldn’t be mad (i happen to have the squad) - it’s still 9 men premium.

In the end there’s no guarantee of uniqueness. I would understand that some people might get pissed of course.

And anyway, I’m open to an alternative gun proposal.

I’ve never argued for removing the guns which have been acquired already. In fact, i have argued the opposite.

So yeah, nothing gets removed from you. You get to keep what you have. You just can’t buy more of it and neither can anyone else.

Gaijin does shit like that all the time in WT (eg Maus) so legally not an issue.

As for gold guns, there’s already a precedent: m2 gold in Normandy… then they introduced m2 standard in same campaign. Only difference is one is for assaulters and other not.

So yeah, sadly a weak argument.

Isn’t that a premium? :innocent:

Jk, i don’t disagree with any of the proposals. Would work for me.

I think arguing that campaign X should have weapons just so that they can be transferred to campaign Y is not very persuasive.

I support the idea of removing/restricting early assault rifles in Moscow, as it breaks the atmosphere of early war - which is still dominated by bolt action rifles and 1st World War/interwar-era equipment, that are slowly replaced by semi-automatic rifles and 2nd generation of (sub)Machineguns.

Now, if say, they add ‘Battle of France/low countries’ campaign in 1940s…
This would be another early-war campaign, where we could enjoy some more traditional low tech combat. I might be more lenient towards early assault rifles on the eastern front, but still, that is yet to be seen.

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maybe you dont understand

MKB IS IN MOSCOW FOR LET F2P USE IT IN STALINGRAD WITHAUT PAY 30$

Writing everthing in capital letter doesn’t make what you say more true.

F2P stalingrad doesn’t matter.
Because the x4 bonus exp make it irrelevant to play as a F2P except if you are a masochist.
And Stalingrad is not a good campaign.

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I dislike Stalingrad campaign the most, and thus do not plan to play it seriously for forseeable future.
Edit: If anything, they should remove the blue campaign unlock blocker.

But there are other possibles buyers out there.

Thats not the point of premium squads. you cant suddenly switch the product after people bought it. Thats not how an purchase work.

In other words, if you were not fast enough, you dont the gun. Thats fair.
And people still get something removed and that is the ability and access to an gun otherwise this whole thing would be pointless.
And the oppositte means that you get something. So what do I get if I am happen to be one of the few idiots who maxed out Moscow Axis? A gold oder gun I already own and dont use?
Wow thanks. That makes the whole removal fair I guess.

What M2? The M2A1 is a completely different gun than the M2 Carbine especially in terms of class restriction.

Ehm The M2 and M2A1 are different guns. Just a lazy and

“BuT teChNiCalLy” oh buggle off with that. The M2 and M2A1 are not the same gun as the PPD familiy are not one gun or the MP38 and MP40. They even have different stats.

In Stalingrad. Some guns are premiums in certain campaigns and some not (e.g . M1918). So I dont see the point here.

Since when is Gajin a good example (and the Maus wasnt premium/ gold tank)?