Stick mag PPSh-45

The proposal is simple - add stick mag PPSh-45 at BR 3 . Soviets only have one submachine gun available at BR 3, so adding some variety wouldn’t hurt.

In terms of stats, stick mag version will be equal to box-magazine variant, except for the reloading speed, which should be slightly faster than that of the stick mag 1941 model. As a nice bonus, you could also give it an extra magazine thanks to its lighter weight.

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I would expect better variety than just reskin with slight changes to stats.

Nevertheless, I would definitely like to have stick mag version of PPSH-45 in game as well.

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Four (!) "PPSh-45"s given out to everyone (!) who buys the BP is already bad enough because it was never used in WW2.

So I would really not want to see “PPSh-45” in tech tree, no thanks.

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Following that logic, we should remove certain branches for all nations. We have plenty of weapons that were never used in combat or were used very limitedly. If you don’t like them, simply don’t use them—no one’s forcing you.

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I am pretty sure he would love that.

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You dont know Veekay, he would scrap half the TT if he got the power to do so.

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More dakka

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Not half, really, just these, for example:

Just the stuff that was not used in WW2

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You give us our money back?

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Fedorov was used by the Moscow militia in 1941 in limited numbers. Additionally, it was issued to some border guard units along the Manchurian-Japanese border.

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don’t let this man anywhere near japan TT :joy:

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Well, first of all I’d really love to see some documented evidence of that (no sarcasm)

The latest evidence I’ve seen was Winter War

But more importantly, if Fedorov Avtomat was implemented in a more realistic way (e.g. flimsy and delicate WW1 design chambered in Arisaka round with significant recoil (BR 1-2)) instead of “proto-AK-lasergun-Berlin-dominator”, I wouldn’t probably hate it so much.

Yeah… Japan should have never gone beyond BR 2/3.

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With Japan at br3 you have 1.5 axis factions vs 2 allied factions which just feels broken

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Still miles better than Ho-Ri which is straight up fiction

Yes a half dead faction no one plays much getter

Never thought I’d agree with you, but yeah, the recoil should be much heftier.

haha you know what, if they actually also add PPSh-45 stick mag AND it also gets broken OP dispersion like PPSH 41 stick mag I would be adding even more check marks on my “Soviet bias” list.

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I feel this won’t add much to the Soviet TT. A stick mag PPSH-45 would play exactly like the stick mag PPSH-41. What the soviets need is more variety in what the weapon does, e.g. AS-44 vs Federov vs PPSH.

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