Statlocking Vehicles

[VoyoMayPL]

That’s true to an extent.

[Barendd1974]

Well, yea. There are players who end up with more squad wipes by the end of the game than they have kills. They should not be able to take up a slot in vehicles until they learn to play the main focus of the game: Infantry. An average player or a good player should not have to fight with someone who will ultimately get destroyed somehow with no kills when someone can at least make some progress, whether it be leveling that squad or otherwise.

[Brrady]

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I don’t have a figure atm for how many Tiger l’ s were on hand but from what I recall there were more of them present than there were king Tigers, my point is that there were more on hand than I think what is commonly Understood.

But it kind of also depends on how you want to define Normandy, there were tigers present from mid June in varying numbers as evidenced above.

[Veekay45]

What?
Tiger I was introduced on the Eastern Front in 1942. Berlin started in 1945.
~1350 Tigers were built. There were ~30 Tigers in North Africa and ~125 in Normandy.
Where do you think the ~1200 Tigers went and who destroyed them?

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And regarding the OP’s idea, hard no.
It’s a game, everyone should have equal access to fun stuff, not just the absolute sweatlords.

[Conscript_Joe]

@Barendd1974

I don’t want this nor do I doubt many other people want this.

Many newcomers and more casual players wouldn’t want a stupid restriction that would favour only veterans either. See the problem here? Ppl having a problem with the core game should have a place of their own, there’s no point giving an even BIGGER advantage to us vets in the regular game: it will drive many ppl away. You want vehicles to only be for good ppl? Then YOU go play with other sweat lords, others shouldn’t have to pay for your discontent

[EdVanSchleck]

Do you really think that this kind of stuff would work in Enlisted? How can someone be better in a tank or airplane, if he is denied to play it at the beginning?
Every player has a mind of its own. You lose because a guy wastes vehicle slots, that is THE GAME.

[Crivat]

@VoyoMayPL

So instead of idiots with light tanks, we will have idiots with heavy tanks and hordes of frustrated noob players that can’t use 1/4 of their squads

Here’s a thought…
So why not make the vehicle squad optional? You could have 3 infantry squads and a vehicle squad or if you’re not interested at all in vehicles, you drop the vehicle and you have 4 infantry squads.

Also let’s take into consideration the players that are not interested in vehicles, you could have a campaign level reward system that allows you to choose if you either get a new tank/tank squad or a plane/plane squad or a rifle/infantry squad like the one you have in the squad upgrade tree. Me personally, i don’t use tanks at all. I’m not a good tanker, i don’t like them, i get stuck on smth every time, so every time i have to complete a campaign level where a tank is the reward, it’s even more of a chore because i will never use it. I would rather have the choice whether i get a tank, a plane or a squad at the end of a level instead of grinding for a vehicle that i won’t use.

[Barendd1974]

@Conscript_Joe

You want vehicles to only be for good ppl?

Are you ignoring literally everything i’m saying? I said, time and time before in this thread, that the requirement would be small during a match. Let’s use 100 score as the standard at first, if not 150. The player would have to start as an Infantry and gain 100 score as them before playing in a vehicle. I’m sorry that the people who don’t earn a single kill throughout the match, or go negative the entire thing, don’t get to waste a tank slot for a certain amount of minutes before they blow up.

[Conscript_Joe]

Still against it 🤷

On my own point of view: I LOVE making “noob” tankers explode. The more there is, the happier I am, because I love hunting them, with my own tank or AT squad. To me, lobbing a tnt bundle from as far as I can and have it land exactly on the top of a tank 1 second before detonation has become good sport. Like throwing a basketball from the other side of the field and scoring.

From the point of view of new players: just another restriction… only for them. Not really fun is it?

For you and me and any forum “vets” point of view: it’s quite hypocrite a request, frankly. With such a system, I will always be able to spawn my top tier tank without any problem (we’re not so bad players) and I’ll be able to nuke the enemy team with my top tier tanks the whole duration of the match without opposition, unless one other is good enough to oppose me and spawn a tank or plane of his own.

Because you forgot something else: this system would not only impact tanks… but planes too. And even noobs can bomb tanks easily with planes (even if they crash doing so). With this, they rarely would spawn bombers at all!

So I maintain my point: you want players with a modicum of talent being the only drivers of vehicles? A ranked mode is what you’re after. No need to punish sorely needed newcomers even more with pointless restrictions that wouldn’t be necessary in a mode filled with ppl with your mindset.

[Barendd1974]

@Conscript_Joe

A ranked mode is what you’re after.

No, this is not what i’m after. If you need reference for a similar system, look at Battlefront 2.

@Conscript_Joe

For you and me and any forum “vets” point of view: it’s quite hypocrite a request, frankly. With such a system, I will always be able to spawn my top tier tank without any problem (we’re not so bad players) and I’ll be able to nuke the enemy team with my top tier tanks the whole duration of the match without opposition, unless one other is good enough to oppose me and spawn a tank or plane of his own.

That’s how it works now. Anyone who is good with an end tier tank, will not be killed, with this proposed system, or without it, unless met with another good player, or a smart average player who might not have end tier stuff.

@Conscript_Joe

Because you forgot something else: this system would not only impact tanks… but planes too. And even noobs can bomb tanks easily with planes (even if they crash doing so). With this, they rarely would spawn bombers at all!

I don’t see suicide bombing as a good thing, they should provide some other incentive to use planes, as currently suicide bombing seems to be an alternative and a priority over AT squads. They need to provide an easier way to level up plane squads too, but that’s another thing separate from this.

[wastedwoodsman]

Americans bombed them out of existence in operation good wood no puns intended

@wastedwoodsman

Operation Goodwood, the 3rd company, which was based in Cagny, Calvados, was destroyed in the preliminary Allied bombing, with impacts powerful enough to turn a 56-ton Tiger upside down. Only one Tiger was operational at the end of the day.

[Veekay45]

Goodwood took place in summer 1944. What do you think happened to the Tigers deployed from 1942 to summer 1944?

[tommyZZM]

@Kutarinkushi

Interesting, but it deserves it’s own post, go and make it.

I have always hoped that the game can bring such a mechanism as soon as possible.

There are already many similar suggestions in the forum. The details may be different, but the purpose is the same.

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@tommyZZM

it can be some thing like spawn points in warthuner in single match

or it can be some thing like the soul points in Cuisine Royale (C.R.S.E.D). it can be easy to acquire and supplement.

@tommyZZM

But first there needs to be some mechanism like respawn points to limit the use of automatic weapons. Otherwise it wouldn’t be the First World War you were imagined.

@tommyZZM

Adding Spawn Points and Spawn Costs is the most scalable way to solve these problemsss.

It would be great to allow more vehicles to appear. I want to play with GAZ AA trucks, but I don’t want him to consume the same location resources as tanks.

@tommyZZM

I’m actually quite satisfied with the grenade changes this time. This is the reasonable damage of a grenade, even a little too small. Maybe some players abuse this weapon, but in the end the cause of the problem does not come from the performance of the weapon itself

The devs hope that simply by nerfing this and enhancing that, then it can make gamers diversify their weapon choices, which is difficult to achieve, perhaps they wish to.

There are players who don’t want their weaponry limited so they can fully equip their best weaponry until the end game hits some sort of boring balance, maybe having some fun at first, but eventually becoming monotonous and faded.

In my opinion, this game is always in this cycle, once maybe the battle of Stalingrad was considered the most friendly battle for Dashuan, but now, isn’t it also mkb42 everywhere?

To solve these problems, the only way to adjust is to limit the number of equipment in some way to prevent certain weapons and equipment from being abused in the game. For example, setting different spawn points for different weapons, I believe many players have mentioned it many times. Call this spawn point whatever you want, soul or ancient gold coins.

@tommyZZM

@CaptainSebekel

Do you use the Panzer II instead of the IV?

Why Not? IF there is some kind of mechanism suitable.

Remember the skin of T-60 and T-70 in the lastest Twitch Drops. Why do players like me, have to waste slots and game experience, to get these dev-developed content to appear in the battlefield? Isn’t that weird?

I’m not against the other way of gameplay, it’s totally understandable that players can choose the most profitable and powerful weapon in the game.

But each player’s preferences for game mechanics are different. Players like me prefer to have more choices in the game. Every type of weapon and vehicle of different levels can play a role in the game. Why can’t a level 36 player like me use a BA-11 or a T-26 in some suitable scenario?

[wastedwoodsman]

um june is in the summer

[Brrady]

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[Veekay45]

I assume you speak English right?

@Veekay45

Tiger I was introduced on the Eastern Front in 1942. Berlin started in 1945.
~1350 Tigers were built. There were ~30 Tigers in North Africa and ~125 in Normandy.
Where do you think the ~1200 Tigers went and who destroyed them?

[wastedwoodsman]

yes do you? during operation good wood they bombed the 125 in normandy the 1200 hundred went to fight in berlin against the russians there wasn’t 1200 in Normandy

[Overlander57]

Well put. Classic elitist gatekeeping going on here

[maxshootemup]

Conscript_Joe, and several others stated it well, this is not a good idea. It’s a good discussion, but crap in the game, and only helps a select few and hurts new players and lots of others who struggle for whatever reason.
Sorry for the late post here, been away a couple of days.

[Brrady]