, letās be real.
This new update made BR V literally unplayable for most players.
JETS theyāre not just fast, theyāre overkill. 500 kg bombs every 30 seconds
You canāt even spawn without getting deleted by some sweaty jet pilot
US ,Japan and USSR jets especially just ruin the fun. Thereās no balance. Most of us are still using AA
NEED NEW ANTI AIR DEFENSES
gaijin: ābest I can do is nerfing AA once again & giving you penalties for quitting a match without our permissionā
I agree with what you said and I think all 500kg bombs should be replaced with 250kg, 1000lb bombs with 500lb. Iām not sure about the Japanese bomb, but I believe it should be 250kg too.
But:
Do you believe that the German jet is not OP like other jets? The 500 kg bomb and 30mm automatic cannon will destroy any infantry and tank.
Is it any worse then constantly dying by the non stop barrage of artillery, or gray zone camping tanks constantly blasting cap or spawn points?
considering that BR5 had p47 before which has much larger payload and is only slightly slower than US jet, i dont see reason for complaining based on payload. also 500kg bomb is only slightly more effective than 250kg. i would rather have 2x250kg than 1x500kg.
real reason why jets are a menace is cause they are extremely good against enemy aircraft (meteor and probably kikka). jabo is also good cause of its 30mm cannon which can kill infantry, but it is trash against other aircraft(unless you can get behind someone).
not really. i have used 30mm to kill infantry, but i have never killed a tank with it. maybe skill issue.
also cause of its speed it is extremely hard to do precise low drops that you can do with other planes. i have crashed it way more than i want to admit when doing dive bombing cause i couldnt pull up in time.
jabo is excellent plane if it is unopposed in air, but can really struggle when there is decent plane out there. meteor is probably only plane that i would call āOPā, but it is cause of versatility and its AA capability. if i wanted better CAS i would take p47, ju188 or tu2.
Well, I personally had no problems with the German 30mm jet in air combat, it sometimes bugs, but most of the time it is very powerful. It is also a nightmare against infantry and APCs. I am not sure about the Japanese 30mm jet, I have not unlocked that jet (I donāt play Japan much).
I also donāt think air combat is an issue with them, I can easily destroy them with propeller planes (although itās unfair and frustrating), the main problem is the AA, they are realy bad againts jets.)
If I were in charge of this game I would remove the jets, but since thatās not going to happen I suggest that the bombs be halved, we be given better AA, and of course the jet maneuvering should be nerfed.
Well, I meant the sum of the two (bomb + 30mm), I canāt destroy a tank with that cannon either.
problem is not in cannon, but in performance of the plane. it is shit for maneuvering and it cant use speed to outrun enemy plane cause of small maps. so unless you get behind enemy back, it is shit for plane combat. also lead indicator bugs out often (idk if it is just me problem or it happens to others).
it is ok, but has limited ammo(2x50 rounds). considering big maps and big caps, it is lot less useful than german 30mm.
if you see it on time, then they kill jets easily. if you dont see it, then they are bad. i would just buff AA with increased lead indicator for jets(e.g. 1500m instead of current 1000m)
Yes, itās less maneuverable than the Meteor, but I sometimes think the Allied pilots are too skilled, although the Japanese pilots are still on top. I think thatās why the Meteors have become a nightmare in the air.
I hope I can open it soon and enjoy the 800kg bomb. Big Boom!!
This is also a good idea, and with the jet maneuver nerf there is no need for better AAs (the developers are too lazy to design new things anyway)
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And they expect me to use worthless AA to fight vs jets while they can just ping you from 5km away and just strafe you to death. At least me262 cannon is trash so it will kill at best 2-3 of your infantry but bombs/rocket = instant wipe out of the squad. They have no counter outside of using your own plane itās total cancer while Tanks have 10 strong counters.
Yes i deserted that match fuck jets and P47. 
lol
I desert at the same time if I see this.
Three matches in a row with plane german spammers. I guess they need to take some steam off before work. But iām out.
i know.
I have to join and leave at least 8 games to found a good match.
AA doesnāt fix this mess. Shoot down a Meteor jet, and theyāll instantly whip out a P-80 or P-47 to keep spamming trash bombs. They might even thank you for speeding up their switch to the next plane, lol. 
plus they get more score from wiping your AA + squad than you do by shooting down their plane with one dude
I played a match yesterday, we were just starting, moving out with all the troops, tanks, and transports, and one of those new jets came and dropped a bomb. The result: the whole team and all the vehicles were wiped out.
