Soviets need a decent mg at br II

Hello, dear sir
As you can see - in a tech tree only Madsen can be bring at br II for USSR. Its not much, to be honest.

In the other hand there is no photos almost no any evidence of it existence as a hand mg for soviets. Its a most rare and unique gun in a whole game also.

So, is there any chance to have something more reliable at II br?

For my opinion, yes. But what directly?

It can be DPM with a biker magazine (Japanese style) some amount of its kind were produced in 1938-1940. Could be good 25 rounds mg for all purposes.

What’s else? As we have a trophy PPSh obrez for axis - it will be great to have some trophy ZB-26/30. Nice decent gun.

Any chance to have something else? Could be, my friend.

Lets see in some reserch of this topic:
Light machine guns were represented by 7.92 mm caliber systems: Browning M1918 of various variants, the Czech Zb-26 of the 1926 model, the Polish wz1928, which was a modification of the Browning M1918 light machine gun. By September 1, 1941, Czech Zb-26 machine guns were the most in service with all types of light machine guns (502 units), the least — Browning M1918 machine guns (13 units)

What else can be in line of Bren gun and ZB? This one

Experimental machine guns DPM-36 (USSR. 1935) and DP-39.
In 1936, the upgraded Degtyarev DPM-36 machine gun appeared, designed according to the type of the Czechoslovakian ZB-26 light machine gun. Its characteristic features included: a 30-round sector magazine mounted on top of the receiver, a recoil spring transferred to the stock, and a quick-change barrel, as well as two types of lightweight universal alarm machines designed by I. I. Bezrukov and I. N. Kolesnikov, which made it possible to turn DP and DPM-36 into a machine gun or anti-aircraft machine gun. In the same year, another extremely interesting example of the Degtyarev amphibious assault machine gun appeared, which differed from the previous model by locking with a single combat larva, a reloading handle made in the form of an under-barrel forearm, as well as the possibility of attaching a bladed bayonet. The mass of the amphibious machine gun was only 7 kg with a total length of 1,050 mm. Degtyarev designed a lightweight universal tripod machine for amphibious operations of a very simple design, with a weight of 7.5 kg. Subsequently, this machine was adapted for a regular DP.

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Shame it wasn’t based on BREN. Then it would be a russian machine gun based on british machine gun based on czech machine gun based on danish machine gun.

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Yea, I mean its construction with a 25-30 rounds magasine under - close to other br II mgs)

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A pump action LMG? I need to see this in the game.

The upper, beg my pardon, but its fun

I don’t mind the variety, but I actually kind of like the Madsen now. It was pretty mediocre before the buff, but afterwards it’s become pretty usable. It’s plausible to be used because it was a leftover from the revolution and many Tsar-era weapons were used well into WWII.

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Madsen is a great gun and more than good enough

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Isn’t 3 enough for the Germans? Maybe we should remove the extra?

RPK 1943, with an updated 20-25 round magazine and place it in the level two tech tree. It is the perfect MG at level two for the Soviets.

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I also like PPK 43 with 20-25 rounds magazine - it was in real life - I can bring some documents there it was written after guys fix the forum pictures

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Here it is btw
The report of the Commission dated 26.06.1944, presented at the Kalashnikov Museum, and photographs of a machine gun

Translate of the sentence: The light machine gun is powered by a two-row sector magazine with a capacity of 15-25 rounds.

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I love the RPK 1943, and if it had a 20-25 round magazine I think it would be the best MG at level two. If the Dev’s would move the Allied base BAR down to level two and lowered it’s rate of fire a little, I think they would be about equal. Then I would lower the horizontal recoil of the MG13 along with making the Japanese Hotchkiss MG tech tree, then we would have a very good level two machine gun lineup throughout all the factions.

  1. RPK gets 20-25 round magazine and moves to level two tech tree
  2. US base BAR 1918 gets ROF lowered to 550 and moved to level two tech tree.
  3. MG 13 gets horizontal recoil reduction.
  4. Japanese Hotchkiss M1922 MG moved to level two tech tree.
    (Something for everyone :wink:)
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Why are you complaining? It’s more for us to grind!

I think they should still have some variety, only having one choice can get boring.

According to soviet logic, its better to grind thru duplicates and thru 19 obsolete smg’s.
I suppose because this way you get to waste more time and credits its OP as fk compared to soviet tree where u get adequate equipment technically just by joining them.

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Exactly

Let them suffer - they want more mgs at 2? Let them have it then!

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