Hello again, todays topic is this well known table, that everyone knows about and believes its every number, and basically today i will talk about some stats that although not that critical still managed to suprise me about it’s some inaccuracy.
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Those detail i will talk about should be obvious in my honest opinion, because somehow sometimes half of the team are snipers…
So anyways let’s start with USSR, because the difference there is noticeable
As you may see every of this weapon has logically same zoom but in reality is different and yeah its a problem with devs not giving the right numbers to sights buuuuuut…
This table says that Silenced Sniper Mosin/white wrapped Mosin should has x3,9 when in reality it has same zoom as green wrapped Mosin x7.
Then USA/Germany
They have a bit less of a problem but still.
2 Garand scopes this time with Carcano M91.
And Table’s datamine…
It looks like Carcano’s x7 has same zoom as american x6, it seems that this table again has not correct data.
In conclusion
Although i may have other suspicious about sniper sight’s zoom and how they correlate to the table (there is a video on youtube by a russian youtuber that looks deeper into this and from where i took those pictures, but i dunno if i can post it here) i will say that if this table’s data is wrong on those exaples, it can possibly mean that there are some other inaccuracies in other tables and because many sees it as Saint Grail, it’s a very dangerous thing to spread misinformation among player base, even though they (the authors, mainly Euthymia) didnt do it on purpose.
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Does this means the table’s datamine can also lie about weapon characteristics? For example, spread, recoil, etc.?
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think so. But the great helper couldn’t have made a mistake. Or did he do it on purpose?
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too bad that author themself didnt provide us with info where she took those numbers from, like if Euthymia took this info from game files like you know notepad then why not provide the table with info how to accsess it, like so

or that she took it from enlisted’s editor (?) (you know place where we can also see weapon’s stats), why Euthymia being so shadowy about this info, like literally no info about where do they get all this info from, “data mined”, data mined from where
and from this topic’s problem i guess there can be such faults that she may overlooked and since it’s theirs table its their duty to check if info provided there is correct
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Thanks for the info, i heard something like that but i wasn’t really sure
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Also after thinking for a while, i find it much more concerning that she did not provide source material.
Table itself is not a source, its a conclusion of her findings. Then what is a source material? The files she mined data from. I mean as we can see in this topic there are several people who dont believe this table (because its a conclusion of findings) and what the best way to make them believe? Provide the source material or tell them how to find those files so they can check it all themselves.
And the fact that none of such way has been provided from helper is concerning (well at least for me). But what i also find kind of concerning and saddening is - why no one has pointed this thing out?
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After a week has passed what else can i say… That i find it rather strange and somewhat hilarious that no one reacted to this topic.
Well as i said it’s strange because it touches the important thing to this community: the famous, well-known - Euthymia’s Table. Like no one even tried to debunk those points, which in my opinion basically means that community silently agree with my points, because no one spent a minute to try to argue with them.
What also strange and now this time hilarious that when i wrote this topic, there were wars in neighboring topics (as usual about balance issues) so i doubt that active members of this forum would skip this topic without a comment or a like (if they really want to leave likes), ofc it may make me seems as сrazy because suddenly i believe that there are some movement behind the curtain, but again this topic touches something of a value to this community and yet no one has decided to make their point/to stand their ground.
More additional points i have come by during that week:
Formulas, i really wonder where does author take them from, like yeah i have been told by some kind guy that there are formulas indeed buuuuuuut…
Wth is even that?! It would be easier to people to grasp the table if formulas looked something like that:

And where the author made a mark of what each letter means and also providing the source of why that formula is used here to calculate one of the parameters
All this points i am talking about here would only solidify the table in the eyes of the community, if they are all will be corrected.
Also @Euthymia07-live, i have been told that someone might have contacted you about those problems i am describing here and yet i haven’t seen any feedback from you about all of this situation.
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