Russian tanks in this game are the most handholding vehicles i have ever seen.
-45mm gun reloads faster then German 37mm. despite being a larger calibre and mounted in tanks that are way more cramped then German ones. there is no logic in this. ether buff the German 37mm to the same or better reload or significantly nerf the 45mm reload.
T-60,s armor model does not make any sense. its side armor eats up both 37mm and 20mm shells. resulting in the vehicle being almost impossible to take out from the sides. Using Warthunders armor model viewer the 37mm should have no problem whatsoever in taking out the t-60 from the sides. in this game however sideshots get eaten up 90% of the time. if this is intentional or the results of a bugged armor model i do not know. but it needs to be fixed.
PZ 2 C already barely has a chance against T-60. So there is no reason why a Panzer 2 C player that manages to flank a T-60 has to deal with a black hole side armor that sucks in most shells and let it do no damage
PZ 3 B has it slightly better. But for a tank that you need to unlock it still gets outperformed way to easy by a t-60. The t-60 can just unload his clip into you and wipe your entire crew. while you have to aim for its turret, Or when you flank it and actually OUTPLAY it, you have to roll the dice and hope the side armor does not suck your shell into another dimension. both from a gameplay point of view and a historic one this is laughable.
It’s not faster it’s exactly the same - 2.9 seconds
You need to shoot at specific spots, then you can kill it with a single shot. Which is not even necessary as it has only 2 crew members, so single casualty heavily effects it’s performance.
On top of that, T-60 can pen only first 2 German tanks, the rest is pretty much immune to it. It’s a good anti-infantry tank but nothing more.
As I’ve mentioned before, because T-60 has only two crew member you can kill it with a single belt. Frontally it has two weak points, one is between main gun and mg and another is drivers viewport… On sides you can kill it by igniting fuel tank.
PZ 2 can pen all Soviet tanks in the game, except T-50. I’m getting impression that you haven’t played Soviets yet because T-60 doesn’t work like that at all.
Spawn in practice mode and practice, watch youtube tutorials. There is nothing broken about T-60, that’s just how it was, a well armored infantry support tank, with some ability to fight other light tanks.
This is not the case. i played both the t-26 and the panzer 3 b. t-26 fires faster
Again this does nothing. aiming specificly for the driver position never gets the driver killed from the side. most shots just dissapear. gunner yes but this is not the point.
Penning the drivers viewport with PZ 2 C is impossible. you have never played German tanks i see. this statement shows it.
Says the guy that thinks PZ 2 C can penetrate the T-60 drivers port. also PZ 2 C cannot penetrate tanks like the t-28. and has massive issues with BT-7 as well. again never played germans i see.
yes tanking a full PZ 2 C clip to the side is not broken. having a black hole generator on the side that swallows up shots is not broken. its just great soviet technology tovarisch! according to this game the USSR should have mass produced t-60. they would have been in Berlin in 1941.
Not by the PZ 2 C however. Meanwhile t-60 can just point and click PZ 2 C and remove it from the match in 3 seconds. PZ 3 B can pen driver hatch but it still needs to aim and be in very close range while again t-60 just point and click remove pz 3 b in return. again how is this balanced?
t-26 was never the issue. the issue is that the most basic soviet tank that you unlock right at the start cannot be taken out reliably by the PZ 2 C or even PZ 3 b which you need to grind for. even from the side.
Ah yes so German tanker need to shill out 20 Euro to be able to compete on an even level with the most basic russian tank you get at the start? and you see nothing wrong with this?
PZ 2 C has 20mm of armour. t-60 has no problem going through that. PZ 3 b has 15mm armour which also gets destroyed by t-60 gun.
T-60 does not have to aim for weakspots. it just have to aim for centre of mass and pull the trigger on those 2 tanks. meanwhile those 2 german tank have to aim for weakspots.
Against any other tank besides t-60 the 3b does not struggle.
Did you measure or it’s just a guess work? Show some numbers.
From the side of course not, the driver sits in the middle, covered by transmission and other internal blocks. From the side there is very narrow spot and angle to hit a driver, better to hit fuel tank.
I’m level 29 on Germany and haven’t fought T-60 with anything but top tanks for last 2-3 weeks. So excuse me if I’m wrong. It might be a ring or what ever, driver sits in the middle of the tank.
Even AT rifle can penetrate those. T-28 has a big round spot on the front, penning that kills everyone inside most of the time. BT-7 dies from an HE round to it’s side, PZII can pen it, just need to hit juicy parts and not an empty air.
To the side where? Side means nothing, you have to hit specific modules behind the armor. The pen indicator is useless if you don’t understand where inside of the tank you need to hit.
This is still relevant:
All tanks in Moscow campaing can be killed by AT rifles. The T-60 is the toughest one actually but can be killed by penning fuel tank. I don’t understand what kind of trouble you can have with 20mm cannon then.
