So what's the point of playing Germany at BR1-2?

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  • You don’t have BR1-3 Paras
  • don’t have non premium/non event UC/APC at BR2
  • your tanks are weaker than Soviets tanks (especially vs BR3 you are just hopeless)
  • your AT soldier weaponry has pitiful reload speeds (after Soviets got M1 there are even less reason to play the Germany)
  • your bolt rifles are worse, your smgs are worse
  • your lmgs are worse than of the allies
  • your planes are all right and a bit better than other nations (IAR is undertiered)
  • you have some semis at low BR but they are worse than bolt rifles anyway and m1 carbine got much better after they fixed the ironsights

There is a reason why nobody but newbies play at that BR as Germany, you can abuse BR3 spamming as the Soviets and get over 10k score each match with no effort required:

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Thank you Soviet players for destroying our future so we’ll live in end game and deny you that until we slowly die off

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Personally the only two things I’d like to have access to are MG34 and Stug for it’s canon. But I understand why they are BR3.
SMGs are lacking but fortunatelly “pro players” (read: assholes) cycling SMG aren’t that common.

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Hello, I am a Germany main. Let me break down your post.

– “You don’t have BR1-3 Paras”
Yes, this sucks. Germany should have low BR paras.

– “don’t have non premium/non event UC/APC at BR2”
What? Germany has the Sd.fkz 7 in the tech tree. This makes no sense.

– “your tanks are weaker than Soviets tanks (especially vs BR3 you are just hopeless)”

The PZ 3 J1 and M can pen 106mm of armor. Yes, they are 50mm shells, but travel at a very high velocity.

– “your AT soldier weaponry has pitiful reload speeds (after Soviets got M1 there are even less reason to play the Germany”

The Grb39 can carry 20, TWENTY, grenades that pen 90mm of armor. Fair trade off for having an absurd amount of ammo.

– “your bolt rifles are worse, your smgs are worse”

All I can say is that you’re insane, the pre-war kar98k is one of the best bolt action rifles in the game with the Arisaka 38 and Lee Enfield.

The pre-war kar98k has a very high rate of fire, a fast reload, and it even comes with a bayonet. Neither USA or USSR have a br2 bolt action rifle with all of those traits.

The soviets are the faction with the worst bolt actions. The winchester is good but it lacks a bayonet, and that is their only really good option.

As for SMGs? The MP40 is okay, it’s decent. They are not lacking in any significant way.

– “your lmgs are worse than of the allies”

Are you really saying the MG13 is worse than the soviet Madsen? The MG13 has the highest ROF of any BR2 light machine gun.

– “your planes are all right and a bit better than other nations (IAR is undertiered)”

I’m too busy building rallies and charging the objective to play with planes so I can’t comment on this.

– “you have some semis at low BR but they are worse than bolt rifles anyway and m1 carbine got much better after they fixed the ironsights”

The semis are meh, that’s what you get for having a br2 semi auto rifle. If your aim is too bad with a bolt action they could be fine I guess.

BR2 Germany is my favorite faction, and I can legitimately say that Germany has the best BR2 equipment “overall”. The other br2 factions are better in some areas but worse in others, while Germany just has a good “all round” equipment with some items being good, but no categories being abysmal like soviet LMGs or USA bolt actions.

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Reason? Italian role play
Other reason? Historical loadout lovers

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Of all the reasons to state that Germany isn’t good at low tiers, these arguments are kinda weak.

  • Paras aren’t a necessity.
  • Nor are APCs.
  • The soviets don’t have access to rapid-fire dual-purpose 75mm cannons with HEAT.
  • … And among the highest penetration values at the same BR.
  • BA rifles were never intended to be your workhorse weapon. Armaguerras exist. I will agree on the SMG bit, but in the context of every other advantage the faction has, it can be treated as a tradeoff.
  • The allies have… Top-fed LMGs with garbage sights and RoF at the same BR. Guess what the MG 13 has.
  • They’re ok.
  • The ability to magdump in less than a second compared to the same second it takes to rack the bolt of a BA rifle overcomes any weaknesses SA rifles have in ensuring kills. As mentioned, rifles aren’t workhorse weapons. Automatics are.

German players… Are either of lower quality or are less populated than their allied counterparts, which degrades their performance.

I wouldn’t call them materially lacking in any department when they’re the most well-rounded faction without any clear weaknesses.

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Some of these aren’t true and other aspects are the reason I love low tier. No Paras and less APCs? Sign me the hell up! Bolt actions? I’ll take my pre-war K98k and my Carcano! My planes hit like dumptrucks and my SMGs are just fine, better range imo.
Tanks and LMGs suck? What world do you live in? At BR 2 I’ve almost always broken, beaten, battered, and smushed Soviets before and after the merge. Playing Soviets felt fun but the Germans were amazing.

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Where am I missing HEAT rounds for the short 75mm?

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Panzer 3Ns. They’ve been recently patched that they get HEAT rounds. Even on non-stalingrad versions.

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I love my br 1-2 german lineup :frowning:

But i have alot of non tech tree stuff that remidies your issues

I agree with the paratrooper bullshit, and can see your point with most of it.

I dont agree on worse rifles or mgs though, caracano, caracano sniper, manlicker x 2, mg 13 are all truly excellent

Other favourites

  • flame panzer
  • panzer IIIN
  • panzer III M
  • puma
  • IAR-81C
  • bf110 (premium)
  • Mg 30 squad (wrecks)
  • mp 41 squad
  • lebel squad
  • AT event squad (better AT rifle than tech tree)
  • mkb 35/III
  • mp 38/4
  • beretta m1918/30
  • armaguerra
  • halftrack squad (mg)

Keeps me loving BR 2

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True
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The Sdkfz. 2
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Puma, J1, 3N. The sole good Allied tank is the Grant/ Lee and they mostly wreck Japanese. Soviet is T-50 but that tank can be easily penned by J1 and Puma and pretty sure also by the 3N since it has HEAT now.
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And the Grb also has the highest pen and highest ammo count.
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Isnt the Carcano at BR2 together with Mannlicher? And MP40 and Beretta M1 are not better, but also not really that worse than PPS.
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MG13 is better than Madsen and I think faster than Bren for having worse accuracy.
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Only agree in regards to the P-38. Iirc the 20mm Stuka is BR2 which makes it the best attacker in BR2 era.

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Aside Paras, lack of certain equivalent in terms of event stuff and teams having some questionable players. German equipment is pretty strong in general, but you need to unlock/grind a ton of filler and useless stuff. For example, to get to your meta SMG (the MP-40) you need to unlock 9 SMG and being able to grind tier 3, while the soviets only need tier 2 and 2 weapons in the SMG line. That ignoring how rough the economy is for new players and that the MP-40 is more expensive in general. That and most BR 3 slots are filled with new players that played Berlin 1 time and don’t know how to use the Pz IV J.

German gets the biggest variety of bolt actions in game, in general, they get good ROF and decent iron sights, i don’t see how they are worse than the allies one. The MG-13, with the Type 97, is the best BR II LMG. The KV-1 being OP doesn’t mean the BR II Panzer are bad the kwk39 can pen anything at that BR and the kwk37 is very good against infantry while most of the AP ammo gets HE filler.

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Too bad the new engineers can’t use SMG, they could have been a good esque assaulters to be able to fight vitality build PPS paras.

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hehe I have mkb 35/III for mine :stuck_out_tongue:

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me too, but i don’t think it is possible to have more than 3 of them.

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yeah :frowning:

the rest will just have to be armaguerras…I would give them my berata m1918/30s, but my event AT squad is a good fit for them.

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Those who farmed old Berlin to 39 lvl now enjoy their play. New players probably will never got to KTH or STG…

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nobody should have low BR paras.

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every match is either a BR3 match, or a BR5 match.

playing BR3 makes you gamble, but playing BR2 guarantees that you dont get matched into high BRs.

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when-you-are-5b532e

Why in the world ppl flagged the fact I’m jealous of his mp41 squad??? :laughing:

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