A literal non-contextual buff to silver gains
This would effect ALL players by the same amount
Again, I’m looking for a reasonable medium
I understand that Gaijin/Darkflow makes money from silver, thats fine (although the rates are gross, shame on you for that)
But the grind is TOO LONG
even for a GOOD player, WITH premium, WITH premium squads
1,000 silver per 10 mins is crazy
Using ONLY premium squads moves this to around 1,500 (500 base, 500 prem, 500 premsquad) FOR A GAME WIN, HALF ON A LOSS
Please keep in mind, this is for the players are the VERY TOP of the leaderboard, and usually by a couple thousand points
The grind is absurd
It takes 10s of games to get A SINGLE SOLDIER with a SINGLE GUN
NO upgrades!! Or soldier perks max rolled!! (STUPID MECHANIC)
Look at the second picture.
That is the cost of a fully upgraded squad, using Tier 3 - Tier 5 weapons. For a single squad it takes 200 games, or 50 hours of play time?? Come on! Even at a flat 60% silver increase, it takes 125 total games, or 31 hours of play
([300,024 / 4800] *2) - 4800 comes from a 20 minute game, earning 2000 for a win, 1000 for a loss (the 3,000 the original is divided by) the x2 is for it being 2 games (50% winratio)
(300,024 / 9600) - 9600 comes from 1000 silver per 10 minutes, but in this case 1600 (60% increase)
I think the core issue is that currently the game asks a player to play dozens of hours just to equip a newly unlocked squad with new soldiers, their main weapon and a backpack.
Obviously premium and real money purchases need to be incentivized by the devs, it is how they make their money. However, the silver economy is taking it to an extreme. Buying and upgrading a single rifle can cost as much as a GOOD F2P player makes in 12 matches. A single rifle.
I’ll be honest. I’m probably one of the few that actually thinks premium squads are priced fairly (with a few exceptions of course). They’re almost all worse than tech tree counterparts but come with the advantage of being pre-leveled, equipped and usually have fun and unique weapons that help you grind. Great value for a “I’m going to be playing this lineup for a while” type stuff and cool to collect.
The actual premium time is a really good value, especially since you can get it for a year for $20 in sales. And the battle pass literally gives enough gold to buy another battlepass, that is great.
But the silver economy is predatory beyond measure. And is blatantly not even close to player friendly. When I play a match with premium squads and premium time it feels like a “normal” amount of silver gain. If I play with no premium squads and no premium time its like squeezing blood out of a stone.
I challenge the Devs to play on a fresh account with no premium squads, time or slots. Get to BR II with 1 squad with fully upgraded weapons and tell me that it felt fair and your time wasn’t wasted.
i think that’s the problem that people think that a full set of fully upgraded gear and weapons is the short-term goal, in any online game how long does it take not to get to the end of the story but to max out gear, how long does it take in destiny or borderlands series to get sets of the best stat rolled gear.
I hardly think BR II with upgraded BR II guns is a “full set” lol. And frankly, BR II should be an achievable short-term goal for new players. Its where most actual widespread WW2 weapons start becoming available beyond inter-war and WW1 era weapons. The first squad you unlock in BR II and upgrading its weapons to max is something that can take 50+ hours for in SILVER. But you can easily get to that point in less than half the time in Research.
I do not think it is unreasonable to expect the very early unlocks to be achievable in a reasonable amount of time.
How the frick are you only getting 500 ES for a win? Mine are almost 2000 ES for a win without Preemies
Dang maybe all of you are doing something wrong if this is what the rest of you are getting
You broke it down and said you earn 500 baseline. It could be miscommunication but it sounds to me like you earn 500 a match + Preemies to boost it to 1000-1500 for WINNING. I earn more than 500 in losses
i break it down like this:
on average, for 10 mins of gameplay
i earn 1,000 silver in a win
and 500 silver in a loss
this is based on premium account, you’d get half without premium
in a 20 minute game, i earn about 2000~ silver for a win, 1000 if its a loss
This is a pretty high earning all things considered
sometimes I earn more than 2000, but on average it is around that
