The Firefly’s cannon is pretty much useless recently and the M4A1 (76) Ws cannon is far better off against heavy german armor. The 76 has an APCBC round (M62 shot) which ammo racks german armor in one shot and the cannon on the Firefly is supposed to be much better than that of the (76) W. The current cannon has got an AP round which in my opinion has recently idk been nerfed? Like the cannon now does not perform well at all unlike when I got it first. Currently I get more tank kills using the (76) W than the Firefly…is it possible to maybe get the Shot Mk.8 (APCBC) added to the Firefly rather than the current Shot Mk.6 (AP). This tank is known to be the “solution” to heavy german armor from the British and right now it does not serve that purpose. Did its AP get nerfed or something because it was not like this as I mentioned previously.
It has it?!!
Yea the (76) W has the M62 shell which is the APCBC round
M4A1 (76) W tank with its cannon is proving to be much more capable against heavily armored German tanks. The reason behind this seems to be that the M4A1 (76) W is equipped with an advanced type of ammunition called APCBC rounds, specifically the M62 shot. This type of ammo can take down German armor with a single well-placed shot.
Comparatively, the Firefly’s current cannon only has access to an AP round, which doesn’t seem to perform as well as it used to. This has led to a decrease in the Firefly’s ability to deal with tough enemy tanks, unlike its reputation as a solution against heavy German armor. It’s possible that the AP round might have been adjusted or “nerfed” recently, impacting its effectiveness.
To restore the Firefly’s effectiveness and align it with its historical role as a counter to heavy German armor, a potential solution could involve replacing its current Shot Mk.6 (AP) ammunition with the more potent Shot Mk.8 (APCBC) ammunition. This change could bring the Firefly back to its intended role and address the current imbalance where the M4A1 (76) W seems to outperform it in terms of tank kills.
Make my commonwealth Firefly great again.
Hear! Hear!
I agree that a solution to restore the Firefly’s effectiveness and align it with its historical role as a counter to heavy German armor is worth exploring. Replacing the Firefly’s current Shot Mk.6 (AP) ammunition with the more potent Shot Mk.8 (APCBC) ammunition seems like a viable approach. This change could help the Firefly regain its reputation as a formidable opponent against well-armored tanks.
honestly this is pathetic how solid APs have almost no supremacy in piercing like IRL while explosive APs have often too much damage. tiger oneshots sherman, sherman oneshots tiger, sounds like chapiteau. what about firefly, it obviously should have latest AP+ APDS but with reduced accuracy on second. actually low caliber explosive AP should have slightly less damage while solids- slightly more piecing, especially at angles. firefly is one of my favorite tanks, and it’s premium. wish it would be a bit better
I wish they make it better because 1. It is literally not like this IRL and 2. Like you said it is a premium vehicle and the campaign (76) W is better when it comes to a face to face battle with a tiger or panther.
i hope they manage those little tweaks in numbers like piercing to make balanced tank gameplay. this would make enlisted extraordinary in comparison to other “combined arms” games. but main problem i still see is small maps and random HE damage. i can’t make big bugs’ album unfortunately, so after my last bugreport i have nothing to present
Instead of adding new stuff, how about fixing the current Firefly? Its gun with regular AP should deal with basically everything it faces, (Tiger II could be the exception)
That is true because the AP on the Firefly alone can pen the Tiger and it does not need another shell type but right now that shell in Enlisted is not exactly living up to its name. That AP needs a buff because that tank literally has a great cannon firing a weak shell 
we need both additions and fixes
true
Hopefully yes…(76) W, M10 GMC, M18 GMC has APCBC shells in game with differing armor pen values according to the armament they each had (M1 & M7 cannons) and these values are surpassed by the Firefly’s cannon stats…need to buff the AP because the AP alone is supposed to be great. It literally has a 76mm QF17 Pounder Cannon, which is one of the best cannons of WWII.
APCBC (Shot Mk.8)shell has more armour pen than AP (Shot Mk.6) shell
shell cards and piercing values should give us some info. as i suppose according to unpierced turret of KTH is that we really have earlier ammo. time will show
They need to add that to this game like War Thunder shows the shell type and then the pen stats of that particular shell and you can project a shot on another tank using that shell to see how it does…but then again that is something extra. Adding the shell pen values is definitely a great idea…
well i still dislike WT’s calculator for inaccurateness. still prefer testing myself
I guess adding the pen stats and testing it ourselves in the prac field is ideal.