Semi Automatic Snipers are Useless

I recently unlocked Germany’s Semi-Automatic Sniper, the G43 with Scope. I was really excited, however, I quickly realized just how terrible Semi-Auto Snipers are in game.
First, let me go into bolt action snipers. Bolt Action snipers do 14 damage base, the same as normal bolt action rifles. However, at range they carry more damage. Regular bolt actions cannot one hit to the chest at 200 meters unless upgraded. Bolt snipers can one hit to the chest beyond 400 meters, meaning they will always one hit to the chest unless a character is using the vitality perk.
With this in mind, lets cover the Semi Autos. The M1 Garand and the Gewehr have the exact same damage stats at all ranges. These guns deal 12 base damage and suffer from a hard damage dropoff at range. The stats of the scoped snipers are the exact same as their normal counterparts. This means that at 100 meters you cannot one hit an enemy without a headshot unless they are damaged. This makes semi-automatic snipers useless because you have to engage at a close enough range that your enemy can easily shoot back if you want to one hit.
I propose that semi automatic snipers get a range buff just like their bolt action counterparts. This would allow them to one hit out to 150 or so meters, thus not making them strictly better but not useless like they are currently compared to bolt action snipers. Currently the only use for these snipers is if you happen to somehow get a fully upgraded one. The sniper FG42 has the same stats as the sniper G43 but at least the FG42 can go full auto, thus giving it an advantage in close range too and leaving the Sniper G43 as a useless and obsolete piece of junk.

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I disagree.

The scoped semi automatic rifle unlike the bolt action its meant to be faster ( as its a semi auto rifle ) for mid and close range.

After all you are mounting a X4 scope.

Unlike the bolt action, if you miss your first shot, you don’t have to wait for the bolt to be pulled. And you can realay on others 9 bullets in the mag.

Another point, just like for the Americans m1 garand, and m1 carbine situation, they are meant to be used differently. Like, they have different purpose ( on paper ).

And for snipers it’s the same, they are meant for different purposes.

The FG42 II I haven’t unlocked yet, but I’m very happy with scoped g43 as provide a different game play style for my snipers. Plus, G43 gang and at 4 stars,shot deviation are no more.

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For me, I don’t see a reason to run the scoped version since I can easily hit every shot within its effective range with the unscoped version. To me, theres no point to using the scoped version because of this.

Weather there’s not a reason for you, there is for me.

Like, it’s meant to be an option, not a sobstitute.

At least fully upgraded semiauto snipers can 1HK the enemy up to range of 180m

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To me, the current version is not an option unless fully upgraded because I think its inferior. But everyone has different preferences.

Yep.

Preferences.

The problem is still going to stand though that the Sniper G43 is going to be inferior to the Sniper FG42 as is. Sniper FG42 has half the recoil stats and can shoot full auto with same damage and scope. And I personally don’t like the idea of one weapon being completely superior in every way to another.

Well, yeah. As we said in another post, that weapon should be restricted to the paratrooper units. And those units only.
Making them a good compromise in terms of choise and firepower.

There definitely needs to be some balance done to it. Its an LMG just like the BAR but for some reason the BAR counts as an LMG but the FG42 counts as a rifle. It really should be an LMG. And the BAR is incredibly strong from my experience with it. I can only imagine how broken the FG42 would be for normal troops.

Actually the BAR was more of a rifle than the FG42 was

Yeah, I don’t particularly like the idea of giving fg rifles to everyone.

But like someone else said, it’s probably for testing.
( but even there, I’m not sure )

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Hope its not for testing. I’d be a bit dissapointed if we lost everything because they’re “still testing” and they do another wipe even though the game is out. Pretty much I think any edits made should not include a wipe at this point. Lots of people would be really disappointed.

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In some games, open beta occurs wipes.

As its not a real beta, it’s like, open beta. ( I think )

I’m thinking this is like War Thunder with how it was in “Beta” until 2018 or so.

Yeah pretty much,

Larger updates that will somewhat change the whole game might arrive.

As far as wipes go I’m hoping no complete wipe but we know some weapons will have to change. I’m definitely not ok with my US squads going into live using brens, stens and piats. They better give me a way to change those over to m1919, Thompson and bazooka

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back in the cbt, we had those :frowning:

but as someone cleverly said, those weapons are getting tested for the upcoming tunin campaign. which does make sense as the british forces are there fighting the germans.

but… removing iconic weapons on normandy campaign was a bit off.

i hope and i think we’ll get them once this testing will be over.

for how much i love those overrepresented and overperforming italian weapons, i still would like the weapons that we had before.

but i do agree that getting others nations weapons it’s a bit off.

like, for normandy, i could get the allied weapons of their faction. but having no italians or british squads what so ever… eh…

i was expecting more.

It’s possible that they will have some other campaigns involving British and US. For example they could have another campaign dlc for Carentan this would be a Normandy campaign with British and Canadians.

They could also do a Market Garden Campaign with the British and US Or a Battle of the Bulge campaign using weather effects … Lots of options on the western front.

I’m hoping to see some Italian units in the Tunisa campaign

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i ffel the same the semi automatic need more damage on high ranges its just stupid
i had to shoot someone 4 times on high ranges till he was down and then 2 times more till death
the fg 42 as sniper is still very good but still unuaable on 400m and more
the g42 with scope is just useless