I always wondered how the famous little Kettenkrad, halftrack motorcycle, could be implemented into this game. I thought maybe it would be just like those various transport vehicles scattered around the map that nobody uses, forgotten and rusting in the background.
However since APCs have been added to the vehicle family, it now has potential. The Kettenkrad can be added as an APC
Unlike the other APCs, it doesn’t have a huge specialized crew and it could only carry two soldiers. So either you would only have the single driver and two players can spawn on the back, or you would have the driver and a single AI squad passenger (who I guess could take over as your second driver life) and can spawn just one player. Obviously it’s BR would likely be 1 or 2 . Because of its small size it could be added into the research tree or as an event
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We could tow the AT and AA guns with it! 
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Mobile ammo box. Could restore ammo for AA guns and AT guns. Like the APCs from advance wars.
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Would probably be more so a rider class style ordeal, Due to being a motorbike.
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I disagree. The Rider role is basically a MG nest on wheels, there would be no real point to the Kettenkrad being a Rider vehicle because it is is unarmed. Sure your squad in the back could fire at enemies but that only goes so far
A more better candidate for the Rider class is cars armed with MGs like jeeps and kubelwagens. Though those also have the potential to be APCs
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" Most Kettenkrads served on the Eastern Front, where they carried soldiers and towed guns and freight through oozing mud, and worked as communication cable-layers . In the latter capacity, the Kettenkrads were sometimes fitted with spools and a special trailer for the playing out of the cable. "
Guess it would fit the term APC, But it’d also be the most P2W/OP APC due to how small it is. imagine hiding it in a house.
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Yes, to the kettenkrad.
No, to being an APC.
As general said, would fit nicely as a rider squad.
Perhaps as an event squad of it’s own
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How are you gooing to explain 9 man poping out of something that could only carry 2 of them?
I know enlisted isnt 100% realistic but that might be a bit far of for me.
As an apc it would be kinda busted as you could hide in in every single ditch or trench direcly at the frontline and have a kinda armored rally point that is hard to destroy due to the small size and it as a vehicle beeing largely ressistand to the odd stray bullet compared to normal rallies.
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I too have rolled my eyes at the occasional silliness of this game. For example the same can be said of the current APCs because I only ever see a few soldiers when we all know everyone has large squads. But we just have to accept the silliness sometimes 
I find it funny and ironic that people are treating this little thing as more powerful and dangerous than the other APCs. Regardless I think it would be great for variety just like all the others. You have the large armed ones if you want to put up a fight, and you have this little thing with a niche capability
You know at first back then I thought they should’ve put halftracks into the Rider class so they have another vehicle type. I thought it was silly to add yet another class. However I’ve come to understand
The Rider class’s role is to be a MG nest on wheels. It’s kind of like how motorcycles were occasionally used during the war or even the SAS raids in North Africa. While APCs are explicitly for transport, yes some of them are armed but they are transport vehicles nonetheless.
The Kettenkrad fits better as an APC because there are other unarmed APCs (because their inherent role is transport). Theoretically the APC class has an opportunity to add a lot more transport vehicles for variety like the Kubelwagen or Opel Blitz truck.
MG armed jeeps and cars theoretically can be Rider vehicles, but one could also say they could be APC
i still think it silly and not really needed if you ask me.
but i guess i somewhat like it as i can run with more mechanized units.
errr.
there are a couple of differences.
which apcs were an actual defined thing.
in enlisted, i guess could mean anything considering even a stummel is considered an apc.
but anyway.
what i think:
yes, but a kettenkrad is not and should not be an apc.
just a side choise for bikers.
so that you make xp by providing aids with medkits or ammo boxes at the cost of the gun.
not somehow be able to spawn an entire company out of nothing.
well, maybe.
but i think not.
weaponized vehicles could and should be just that. not spawn troops out of no where.
for that, apcs.
at least imo.
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Thats too easy and dumb.
That would put a bicycle in the same class as a half-track armed with a heavy machine gun because “TeChNiCaLlY” a bike also transports people and stuff.
The only little differences are:
- The Kettenrad could only transport three people, and even if we squesh a bit, I highly doubt we will get enough room for the crew and up to nine people, so I don’t know how they should even spawn.
- The Kettenrad is not armored/ the crew is not protected at all, even compared to a truck. So does the bike by the way.
- The sole technical similarities it has with an APC such as the M3 is that it is a haf-track.
And even Wiki states it.
The Sd.Kfz.2 (German: Sonderkraftfahrzeug 2 ) is a half-track motorcycle with a single front wheel, better known as the Kleines Kettenkraftrad HK 101 (from German klein ‘small’, Ketten ‘chains/tracks’, and Kraftrad ‘motorcycle’), shortened to Kettenkrad (pl. Kettenkräder)
And there is no game where it get treats as an APC?
Why? Because it is dumb and makes no sense.
Some people could say that tomatos are veggies but still they are actually fruits/ berries.
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There’s no way that steering wheel works.
Why don’t we have it carry AT mine or Goliath? Is that too much tho cause that what the game I play did
I understand where you’re coming from but how do you tolerate rallies? It’s a damn radio beacon and 9 men can just… emerge from it.
Not that I want rallies gone, but sometimes we need to suspend our need for realism.
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There’s a major difference between a half track (Like the HO-HA, M3, UC, or even the 251s) and a small German half track bike.
This thing would flat out make the other Half tracks weaker due to this thing can be hidden in alot more places, And can be more of a threat over all.
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I hope to see this armored version too
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This is not the same because beacons are basically infantry versions of rallies. Without that, you would completely rely on someone wasting a slot for a APC vehicle and would deny beginners from building beacons.
There is no need for the Kettenrad becoming a mobile spawn because they are already APCs and trucks that do the job just fine and would only create more issues due to its size.
Also, the technicalities do not justify it as well.
I have no opinion on use of this as a spawn point. I was only pointing out that justifying that position based on its size being “unrealistic” is silly in the context of Enlisted.
