Off course
But their design role was
- Agains Explosives
- Against shrapnel
- Against AT grenades
They were probably effective against PTRD too
But unlike Tcat said, they weren’t designed to counter PTRD’s
All the evidence I’ve seen says that was their purpose exactly - everything else was incidental.
Eg see Why were Schürzen introduced in WW2? - Steven's Balagan
so got to disagree with you there.
spaced armor that is not sloped is generally designed to provide protection from explosive projectiles, which detonate before reaching the primary armor. Spaced armour is used on armoured military vehicles such as tanks and combat bulldozer
wikipedia
Is that wiki quote provided as evidence for something?
Because it really isn’t much - it is a generalisation, which is fine for what it is, but it is clearly present tense - so is talking about modern spaced armour.
The question is about schurzen - and my example has specific information that says that Soviet ATR’s were the reason for schurzen, and also ONLY thing tested against it prior to introduction -
(my emphasis)
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I can’t watch it right now
Tell me what they say
Yes they do, PIAT is almost useless against the Pz 3N because of the side skirts on the turret,hull and front. (On the front it isn’t side skirts but add on armor with air between that is even more effective)
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Schurzen were introduced to counter russian AT rifles as they had a lot of them. Germans used plates instead of wire mesh because it was cheaper. (Yes, wire mesh was also effective, it suprised me)
It had some effect on infantry HEAT weapons.
Russians suspected it was used to imitate Tigers by another tanks.
No, they just thought that limited space inside was not worth it (see early T-34).
If you think that weapons sliding off the armor is a new concept then you should see for example late medieval armor (as it’s the peak of this tech).
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(or every French tank)
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Well, baguette tank was a bit boxy (I don’t remember the name sadly) but renault FT is good example.
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Ok then
I guess you were all right, I never thought sideskirts were made to counter AT rifles
That’s weird
Why are tiger 2 and panther angled? (But panther had a lot of malfunctions maybe because of it’s design)
My assumption is that early tanks were relatively light so you could add armour with relative ease (like for example up armored PzKpfw III on the photo). While late tanks were already heavy and adding aditional armour would make them next to immobile so the only way of adding armor withouth adding weight was angled armor.
This is my theory so it’s probably wrong 
In short: germans changed their priorities.
Panther had a lot of malfunctions because it was rushed design. This tank went from “let’s build a new tank” to production in one year.
MG42 was went through this process in 4 years. Compare this, 4 years for infantry weapon and ONE year for a TANK.
It may be considered a bad tank but in case of development speed it’s a monster.
Well I know early German tanks werent designed to counter other tanks so they had to change their tanks design so that’s probably why early tanks werent sloped
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That makes more sense 
It would be cool seeing Panther with all those Problems introduced to Enlisted
I know gun mantlet worked as a trap-shot so some Panthers were being penetrated by early war 40mm guns
But considering that Enlisted uses warthunder damage models, it will hardly ever happen because in Warthunder, Panther was stronger than Tiger
It would be hard. In games (unless it’s a strategy game) you can’t really show logistical and maintenance problems.
Unless you give tanks time after which they can spawn as simulation of problems in delivering it to the battle (I suggested it in your post about limiting heavy tanks).
I meant problems like unreliable turret armour, longer repair speeds, longer time for crew to switch places…etc
Then ok, but only in early models I guess. Not for example in berlin.
Well I think 
last ditch German tanks werent great as well
But I’m not a great expert when it comes to German cats so I’ll call Tcat, he knows more
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