I don’t know but has anyone had any additonal survivebility from HEAT weapons on GER vehicles with spaced armour (schürzen)? If fired on several times, it shall fly away and be broken from multiple hits. But in Enlisted bazooka just nukes any tank that has side skirts, ignoring the spaced armour and it’s whole point of it being there. Please rework spaced armour because i am sure that it is currently broken and it just acts as cosmetic rather than protection from HEAT rounds and shells.
My impression was they were only for AT rifles, which they are effective against.
Without side skirts panzers are easy kills for AT rifles
Yes, AT rifle also but HEAT as well. By the way nice to see you, long time no see, how is your “immortality” Jagdpanther doing, i believe now your crew all wears Knight’s Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds.
BTW i will reference you to the wiki about HEAT rounds on side skirts
The wiki you referenced literally said
This requires a distance of 1.2 meters even for an early 100mm projectile, thus conventional skirts are effective against HEAT only at very low angle of incidence.
That is cold war era projectiles sir.
Most of the Cold War spaced armour was designed against medium-to-low caliber kinetic munitions, (e.g. 30mm autocannon and 76mm HESH rounds), especially vehicle side skirts. Most of them were made of RHA plates (Centurion), or thick reinforced rubbers (T-72), and worked in the same way as did WW2-era ones.
This light armour also detonates explosive warheads prematurely. High-explosive anti-tank-type warheads (HEAT) use a focused hypervelocity jet of copper or steel to penetrate armour. To be effective, HEAT warheads must detonate at a specific distance from the target’s primary armour to ensure maximum penetration. Thus early detonation greatly reduces the penetration of HEAT ammunition. This requires a distance of 1.2 meters even for an early 100mm projectile, thus conventional skirts are effective against HEAT only at very low angle of incidence.
As you can see on german tanks and tds they have the distance of about 1.2 meters already, check the distance from where side skirt begins and till where the side armour of the tank begins.
Hehe hello
Naturally i still have it. But dont think i have taken it for a spin since merge! Might have to dust it off!
Spent most of my time at Br 2 and 3
Hahahah same me too! i am playing BR 1-2-3 and BR 5 i still have it too but all my slots are unfortunately full and the new 11th slot as well so i can’t take it, because i am using the new Tiger II Henschell turret. Look at my setup xd
Never worked against HEAT warheads.
I am not fooling anybody, that just how i see it
Lol by giving picture from some misleading angle.
This is a kar98k which is 1.1m, as you can see the distance from schurzen to side armor is less than half of the gun.
history lesson:
the German army did place Schürzen on the side of their tanks because of anti tank rifles, however it was discovered that HEAT could be stopped by those as well, however this was not their intended purpose.
At the end of the war Mesh Schürzen were still used because of heat though.
up to this day the same principle is used in order to help against HEAT, by making the HEAT round trigger further away from the main armor, the penetrative power can be reduced significantly - though one should keep in mind that HEAT is not simply only a type of tank shell, rather a big batch of anti tank weapons were used on the HEAT principle.
( Panzerfaust, Bazooka, magnetic anti tank mines, AT rifle grenades etc) some were more influenced by those Skirts, others less.
Thank you for your informative answer !
are there sources on this? there are many places online that claim it is a myth. in fact i heard once that it even helped the pen.
There is little evidence concerning its effectiveness against shaped charge warheads; in some cases, it was effective, especially smaller warheads, but in other cases, it was either no effective or actually enhanced the effectiveness of the war head by allowing for more “standoff” to allow the jet of explosive more distance to form and thus be more lethal.