Russian tanks setup

So, the russians, they get the Ba-11 as a starter, BT-7 as fiurst researchable and T-26 as final researchable, they all got the exact same gun, but diffrent armour and speed, while the T-26 is the slowest, and accordingly to the game got 2mm more armour than the Ba-11, wouldnt it be better to put the T-26 as the first tank you can use, and Ba-11 as 2nd tank, and BT-7 as final tank as it got most armour, best speed and overall best protection? becuase as far ive seen, every time i’ve countered a Ba-11 with my Panzerkampfwagen III Ausführung B i’ve lost most of the times to the Ba-11, while in the Open alpha that was a while back, where it was T-26 vs Pz3B (i think it was) they were rather equal and mostly just who shot first won,

So my why not re-arrange the Ba-11, BT-7 and T-26 into First tank beeing T-26, then you can unlock Ba-11 at rank 9 (where BT-7 is now) and BT-7 at rank 14 (where T-26 is now), Anyhow, just a suggjestion! =)

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Here is from my match that i litterly just did, as you note, my Panzer IIIB doesnt even seem to be able to effectivly kill it from rear (granted, it was out of crew, i was merly testing the penentration vs armour before the tank dissapear, as you see, when i aimed lower on the tracks hanging around, THEN i could pierce, but why?

(sorry about the potatoe quality, but due to restriction i was unable to create the gif to be any bigger in my videoediting program, so i guess this will do for now)

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iirc it was like that back in the moscow open alpha (T-26 first, then BA-11 then BT-7). Not sure why they changed that, but it should go back to haw it was.

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It really should, the Ba-11 is so much better than the Pz3B, it would be equal to the Pz2C as the Pz2c get the fastfirering gun and can deal with it, while the Ba-11 can also deal easly with Pz2C due to bigger gun

Also one thing, it’s easy to get ricochet on BA-11, also the fighting compartment is not that close to driver seat. Usually they will have the chance to fight back/escape from it and Pz III B don’t even have a chance. They should put BA-11 after BT-7

That could be possible too, as the Ba-11 and BT-7 is very equal in statestics, but bt7 would be faster offroad however, so i still think bt7 should be last, but honestly, as long the Ba-11 was changed out with the T-26, i dont really care if its the first or 2nd researchable, as the T-26 is much more fitted adn alike the Pz3B than the Ba-11 is

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I’d replace Ba-11 with T-60 though. Both sides, if possible, should have similar stuff. Pz II is a monster in War Thunder and I believe it’s going shred enemies even more in Enlisted since you’re alsofighting against infantry there.

True, but the T-60 would also have OP armour, the Pz2c here only gets like 34mm armour penentrating rounds, and an angled front of a T-60 would be rather impossible to pierce it with any of the tanks we currently have, at lest on the frontal hull, even the flat part got 35mm armour, 1mm more than the Pz2C can pierce, and the turret got 25-20mm armour, wich granted, makes it piercable, but that effective

on a side note, the t60 also can pierce only 27m armour (i am using WT to get a rough estimation of armour and penentrating since they seem to use the same ammo values and armour values) and therefor the t60 would have a rough time fighitng later tanks, like the pz3Ewich got 30mm armour pretty much everywhere, but would also make it very OP against the Pz3B, and useless against a pz2c as the front is too thick for the T-60, making the T-60 having to flank the Pz2C every time wich can be difficult since they share simulare mobility and the T-60 beeing the slower of them, as far i know

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PzIIc is OP in Warthunder, cuase it has STAB and APCR in 20mm.

But I don’t know why they chose the T26 for the final one in tank line for this test, if I have to give it a reason, it is that the Developers know that we have already played T-26 in April-Test this year, and the BT-7 is the brand new tank for everyone to play, and also test whether or not new tank, BT-7 fit for this game. :joy:

I mean, true, but what about the pz3b? i know we had a pz3, the F-verison to be exact, so why does the soviet even get the T-26, when we doesnt get the F- version, and isntead the B and E?

when looking at the panzers shown in the open alpha, you had Pz3 F/B/E/J, aswell as some other tanks, Pz4C, Sturmpanzer II, StuG II Ausf A, Pz IIc, id rather have the Pz2C as our starter, then a Pz3E as 2nd research, and maybe the Pz4C as last research(as of current state of the game?

the soviets at the time showed T-26, T-34 1941, T-28, KV-2m T-34 1940, KV-1 and BT-7, so they could’ve had the Ba-11 as starter maybe to fight the pz2C, the BT-7 to counter the Pz3E and the T-341940 to counter the Pz4 maybe?

At lest then we’d have a larger selection of diffrent guns, not just the 20-k cannon for the soviets and the Kwk37/Kwk30 for Germans thus, the guns doesnt bother me, its more that they had so many others to choose between

But who knows, maybe they just havnt finnished those models yet, and thats why they picked these spesific tanks that we have now heh =)

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Last words indeed.

Any way, the 20-K is better than Kwk37/30 cuase it has better pennetration and more tnt in its shell.

I have my theory that, they think we can’t reach the top level of tank, and they just put some JUNK tank to fit the unlock box, then that is it. And player could reach the lv.9, which means unlock BT-7/PzIIc, and they are just 2 tanks in a large garage (you meationed, like t-34/ kv-1/ Pz4 etc).

They just don’t want we experience all the content in Alpha test, and that’s why some test content is not rational at all :joy:

BTW, now in game the Explosion Pack is OP, cause we can see it is 1kg, but it can kill both USSR nad Germany tank with one. :sleepy:

True enough, but still, if they put the garbage tanks at top research, why do germans get the 3B andnot the 3E wich is the better of them and can actually sometimes survive the 20-k cannon? hmhmhmhhm =)

The panzer 3B/E is trash against anything that isnt the T-26 tbh, as it has an extremely slow turret, slow reload, no survivability or mobility.

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