Well you obviously donāt have the IQ to continue the argument ā¦do I need to post again the WW 2 video of firing type 99:
As you can see they have calculated it was fire with 700 rpmā¦
nothing stopping you from adjusting the weapon now and nothing stopped soldiers back thenā¦this means he adjusted the rate of fire not on number 1ā¦not on maximum probably also.
But they didnāt adjust it back then because they werenāt taught how to use it with the higher rpm, so they didnāt.
Just because it is possible to do, it doesnāt mean that it was used that way. Sure you could adjust the gas block on a mp40 to be unable to cycle but it doesnāt mean it was the norm.
You are right about 1 thing, it is like talking to a wall.
So Iāll leave you with this. āThe exception isnāt the ruleā just because 1 or 2 soilders may have adjusted the gas block doesnāt mean itās the standard configuration and Enlisted is ment to show the standard configuration in game
Go to luna to explain you how the adjustment worksā¦ no point to continue I told you this conversation requires some normal level of IQ at the other side.
They knew how to adjust it back then, but the doctrine said that it was ment to be used at setting 1 not 2.
to preserve the weapons to be used for longer ā¦ but in game you dont care about that and some one going in to combat also sometimes wont care about thatā¦ people use it on any option they liked its up to the operator cuz in higher rate of fire the weapon have higher chance to malfunction and you will waste more ammoā¦
Read and use your head a bit pleaseā¦im really trying very hard to be very polite with you ā¦ before you post something:
So when did they adjusted the gun ?
The first four rows are the Type 11, Type 96, Type 99, and Type 97.
I think itās best to reflect weapons as they were, within the context of what makes the game fun. There are enough parameters that arenāt tied to realism (Iāve never seen an after-action report refer to how a rifle dealt 25 damage) that these weapons can be tweaked to suit specific BRs.
As the weapons currently stand, Type 96 and Type 99 have much better stats than BR 2 machine guns despite the damage, rate of fire etc profiles. If the devs want to move them around (or even the KE7, which I suggested before to give Japan a 15.3 BR5 select-fire option KE7 Becomes BR 5 Select-Fire, Replace with Type 1 Model II MG), stats would have to be adjusted, but Iām all for more prototypes to be added if they are interesting and can be properly balanced (such as the Type 1 Model II, or Mark Ko).
This is text when the weapon is on position 1
as you can see the weapon can increase its pressure depending on how clean it is and if its clean and you put it on position 5 well it will fire on much higher rate of fire from there in US documents the rate of fire of 800 comes since if you put it on 5 well it will fire much faster. And they where adjusting the weapon all the time since if its not clean you will have to adjusted to have the average rate of fire of 550ā¦ they should return military service for realā¦
I agree dude.
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@_DELAVR, Iām calling on you. Youāre an expert on Japanese weapons. Please comment on this post. How accurate is it?
Many weapons have a gas regulator, and I do not think that the same DP 27 machine gun can start shooting with the rate of fire of MG 34. In all Japanese documents and instructions, the rate of fire of Type 99 is 550 rounds per minute. Moreover, in later American instructions, where many errors were corrected, the rate of fire is also 550 rounds per minute. I see the point in changing the rate of fire of Type 99 only if there is a reliable source that provides accurate data on the rate of fire of the machine gun depending on the position of the gas regulator, otherwise we can simply invent characteristics for weapons that have a gas regulator. Sources that talk about the rate of fire of 700-800 rounds per minute are erroneous, they appeared in early American instructions, and later, as I already said, this data was corrected. It is also worth noting that when creating the Type 99 machine gun, the entire bolt group was strengthened during measurements for a different cartridge, for this reason, although the 7.7 mm cartridge is more powerful, the heavier bolt carrier balances the impulse, which is why the rate of fire is similar to the rate of fire of the Type 96. It seems to me that the best solution would be to lower the battle rating of the Type 99 and make it closer to the BREN machine gun.
Oh. That doesnāt mean you canāt get the āold Type 99ā with a high rate of fire. You can get the Type 99 at BR 2 and as a reward for the Type 1 Model 1 events from Nambu Arms Factory. This is an experimental machine gun made on the Type 99 base. It most likely doesnāt differ from it in any way externally, all the differences inside are an easier disassembly (which is not so interesting) and a higher rate of fire. Unfortunately, it doesnāt say what rate of fire the weapon had, but itās even better and the developers themselves could have come up with it.
Type 1 Model 1 Ko:
You are comparing oranges and apples :
DP (Degtyaryov machine gun)
Type 99 LMG (Nambu Type 99 light machine gun)
If it was not true how do you think we are doing it:
Dose this sound 550 rounds ?
Not to mention Type 99 has:
and * Finned barrel: The heavily finned barrel helps dissipate heat and can be rapidly removed for replacement. that allows the gun to fire on better fire rate then DP since it has far better anti-heat system.
So in a locked breach is made normally to fire on slower rate of fire since its more complex so adjusting gas regulator can increase rate of fire. The open breach is already adjusted for higher rate of fire and changing the regulation canāt affect the rate of fire.
Here a simple explanation :
How Does it Work: Open Bolt vs Closed Bolt Firearms
so to understand what im telling you in one system you are having:
Gas is bled from the barrel to act on a gas piston, which then unlocks the rotating bolt and drives the bolt carrier group rearward to extract and eject the spent case In Type 99.
And in DP Gas from the fired cartridge is vented into a tube and directly applies pressure to the bolt carrier to cycle the action.
I dont know how to explain it more simplistic in The Type 99 is gas-operated, meaning that some of the expanding gas from the fired cartridge is redirected to cycle the operating system so you understand why it affects the rate of fire.
I donāt know how to comment on this. No offense, but this is just nonsense.
This is DP :
How a Degtyaryov DP- 27 Machine Gun Works - YouTube
Rate of Fire: What Determines it and How to Change It
So if you put in a larger gas port more gas will enter the system when fired, gas from the barrel is vented into a gas cylinder, pushing a piston. So more gas āāmore pushāā faster movement then the piston then pushes the bolt carrier group backward.
While on DP Gas from the fired cartridge is vented into a tube and directly applies pressure to the bolt carrier to cycle the action.
So with DP you dont have such complicated mechanism of movement that can reduce the ejection time since it already simplified.
Go to the other factors on Ian video 03:40 he explains about the locked breach system.
So what he tells you about increasing or reducing the size of the gas port dose it affect the rate of fire ? So this works for Locked-breech guns is DP Locked-breech ?
Once again I repeat Type 99 LMG is Locked-breech, gas-operated with a rotating bolt. What Ian explains about Locked-breech, gas-operated with a rotating bolt ?
While DP is Open-bolt, gas-operatedā¦
If it was not affecting the rate of fire how he is firing it on this rate of fire :
Shooting a Type 99 Nambu in 7.62mm NATO
So explain how Ian is wrong and its
ihe is just ignorant about differences, a fool who cant understand you, dont waste your time
not that they dont wanna understand me Ian explains it on the video but they cant explain how in all Type 99 videos the rate of fire is not 550 since they are changing the gas port. When you ask them to explain the rate of fire they cant say nothing since there entire theory is on some old paper that is telling them that the rate of fire is 550 but this is without changing the gas port of the weapon. None of them have detailed research on how Type 99 is operated and how the weapon function since if the gas port didnāt matter this people wont be shooting on the videos with this rate of fire. I refuse to believe they donāt understand what Iām telling them its a simple concept reallyā¦
āā A gas-operated firearm like the Type 99 light machine gun fires faster on a larger gas port because more gas pressure from the cartridge is directed to cycle the bolt This increased pressure acts on the piston and bolt assembly, driving it rearward faster and stronger, which in turn increases the cycling rate of the weapon and allows it to fire more bullets per minute."
Go research it when you have time you will understand me. This is the most basic way to explain it I donāt know more basic way to explain it. More Gas Pressure more BRRRT
Iām not denying that changing the setting of the gas ports wouldnāt result in a higher rpm, that is a fact.
What Iām arguing is that it was never used that way by Japanese troops in ww2. So therefore for Enlisted to be a good representation of ww2 it should present the rpm that the type 99 had in ww2.
The gun was shooting in a rate of fire between 550-800 all the time the only time was shooting exactly on 550 when it was clean and used by a new person that was following the instruction is adjustable by the operator and it was adjustable all the time depending dose the operator liked the rate of fireā¦ literally in your own post is stated that the weapon was used in a rate of fire between 550-800. When you are shooting it can you tell is the weapon is shooting exactly on 550 no you will see that you dont like the rate of fire and you will adjusted depending what you prefer. Thats why they made it adjustable by hand you turn it left or right to have the desired gas in to the gun so it can fire on a rate of fire you like.
The only reason it was put on setting 2 was when itās dirty, but guns donāt get dirty in Enlisted. And if it was dirty and put on setting 2 I doubt itās rpm would be 800 because the reason itās put on setting to is so more gas can get through because of buildup that restricts gas flow, so it only has 800 rpm on setting 2 when itās clean. Which by your own admission is the time when it wasnāt used on setting 2.
