Replace/ remove the Chauchat

why chauchat?

The Chauchat LMG was never used by the regular Soviet army, it was used by the German forces but NOT by the Soviets. It was used by the soviet partisans which are rebels and not real soldiers.

Germans used captured Chauchat’s from the Polish, Yugoslav and French troops

SO WHY NOT GIVE GERMANY SCHAUCHAT
Also, why are Germans getting better premium equipment again? Just make this game PVE where you can only play as axis.

Why do I hate chauchat

In history, Chauchat is probably the worst LMG of ww1, now remember this game is ww2!!!

With such disgrace of a gun, we have:

  1. An obsolete weapon
  2. A weak weapon
  3. A weapon, that was hated in the war that happened 20 years before ww2…???

Also, please watch this video, it’s 2 minutes long:

Devs thank you for adding the worst weapon in the history of warfare to Enlisted

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I remember the first time I used the Chauchat in Verdun. Map was argonne. The deploy-behind-cover bug was going strong. It was also the only time I ever used the Chauchat in any game. Never again.

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I used to play Verdun in 2016~2019, I thought Chauchat is “OK” since it can hipfire but most other LMGs in that game can’t. But still, WTF in WW2 still Chauchat? I heard even french they replaced Chauchat soon after WW1.

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It’s more realistic to introduce Maginot Line and give it to french troops because Chauchat was used by the second and third line troops in 1940

I mean, it’s more realistic to give Chauchat to Germans than to Soviets

Or just remove it from the game, devs are trying to give us more ww1 rifles than ww2 rifles

Might as well make Enlisted ww1

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I think they introduced Chauchat because it’s the best weapon in BF1 (how ironic) so battlefield fanboys can waste their money

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Yes, first, chauchat is s lot weaker than MG30, second, chauchat dosent suit for the soviet in WW2.
BTW, hope this game can make it to other theater.
I used to think the title “Enlisted” will certainly not limit the game to WW2. But now, I am suspicious if this game can make that far.

The French did - but other nations kept using it - it was really only the French had problems with it - the Belgians apparently kept it right up to WW2

Nah

I know devs will keep it ww2

But at least introduce Maginot Line and give it to french as a first unlockable MG

It has no use in Moscow

We are talking about Soviets

It’s okay to give Chauchat to Germans or introduce Maginot Line and give it to French

But not Soviets

ChadChat > MG whatever
Red Army > Cold Germans
All seems to check out, don’t need to change anything.

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MG- a fully automatic weapon dealing the same amount of damage as rifles so not whatever

Cold Germans- split between 2 campaigns so the playerbase is not big enough to fill the gaps of both teams

The post I was replying to was talking about hte general service life of the Chauchat.

I agree it is far more appropriate for hte Germans - the Russian Empire got 6100 of them but I can’t find any mention of them used beyond the civil war.

According to wiki Germany captured them from Belgium Yugoslavia, France, Greece and Poland.

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"In addition to the obsolete rifles, the people’s milita also used “popular” sub and light machine guns, also referring to the period of the aforementioned war (WW1):

French Chauchat Mod.1915
British Lewis machine gun Mod. 1915
Danish Madsen light machine gun Mod. 1903
German Maxim machine gun Mod. 1908
French Hotchkiss machine gun Mod. 1914
American Colt-Browning heavy machine gun Mod. 1895/1914

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Soviets were so desperate they had to employ WW1 guns stored in army warehouses near Moscow. So yes, Chauchats had been used. But, the fact that right now they’re outnumbering the mass-produced DP-27 is completely unjustified.

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But again, Chauchat was used by the people’s militia so why not add people’s militia (and partisans) then?

I see @ErikaKalkbrenner is online, let’s see his opinion on giving ww1 weapons to militia in Enlisted

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his? thanks dude…

to begin with;

people’s milita and partisans are two different things.

and

just to clarify.

anyway, good morning.

well, i don’t particulary hate the chau chat, as it brings some variety. and i’m somewhat impressed that has been introduced for the premium squads though. not in a good way.

speaking of premium squads, i don’t exepect same weapons for both faction, but at least i expect weapons to do/cover somewhat the same role.

and what is wrong with uniforms? they looks like pijamas. but that’s another lovely discussion for another time.

anyway, yeah. i think the chau chat should be replaced, and gived for another campaign, or another premium squads more fitting. perhaps french resistance? french regulary military squads? or the above mentioned squads ( people’s millita perhaps )
planty of opportunities.

unfortunally, i’m not sure which could be the replacement.
because there werent many weapons that does fit an equivalent role.
yes, there are a few of them, but if we consider that those should be in the main line up insthead of premium squads. such as dp27. and i’m not a huge fan of ww1 weapons in the second world war either.

so insthead i was thinking to change the german weapon to fit the russian one.
and i was thinking to place: Kg m/40 automatic rifle - Wikipedia

but even there, it’s debatable.

but this is my opinion. for how much is worthed on those topics.

cheers.

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Exactly - and as a premium squad even!

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Yeah maginot, stalingrad, pacific and bulge would be excellent campaigns to add after tuni and berlin, asuming the game lasts that long.

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:rofl:

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I don’t know if I should cry or laugh

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