honestly, when i fight russian aircraft i pump them full with (the little) 7,92 from my stuka, i hit them with immense long burst and nothing happens. Feels so useless when im in danger i abandon my plane.
And if it is better to use the AA weapons and you destroy the tail or the wings, I say it is a critical hit to the plane, in theory it should fall shortly
I guess I’ll use my standard formula for such posts.
Invent time machine and tell germans to make better SMGs. And tell western allies to make better MGs in the meantime.
Also tell The Makaroni Empire to make better tanks so we can have them in tunesia.
I can shoot down Il-2 with Stuka and the 123 - you have to be patient and understand that you are not a fighter and your 2 puny machineguns take a long time to poke holes in it!
I’ve also been shot down by Stuka and 123 in a Il-2 by people who were patient and did exactly that.
L2P issue.
As is using Stuka as if it was a fighter in the first place - by all means take shots where they come, but I’ve seen stuka’s trying to camp the Soviet reload point ffs - … for which I am thankful since Stuka is far superior to Il-2 in bombload - and all the time they spoend trying to be a fighter is time when they are not reloading that 250kb bomb!! That makes Stalin ver yhappy.
Especially considering wing mounted cannons/mg’s can’t be centered like in WT, it should be obvious that you don’t try to dogfight when your using a Stuka unless your extremely confident/skilled
They just need to give the M38 the 40 round version like in Normandy, personally I love the current 20 round M38 but it definitely is not worth 3 silver orders + 69 bronze orders + Level 30. Plus It’s been found that a german PPSH-41 is in the game files, which will likely be a moscow drop for levels 35+.
All Moscow plane models and weapons need adjustments and changes since the MG’s clearly do more damage than the 15/20mm cannons bizarrely, but the IL-2 is fine. It excels against infantry but requires skill to be used against tanks where the Stuka is already amazing vs tanks but needs skill vs infantry, and both need skill to be able to use the cannons/mg’s against planes since they aren’t centered, they fire in straight lines from where their mounted on the wing, meaning that against most planes only half your weapons can hit the target.
I’d argue the SB-2M is more overpowered since it can bloody out-turn all german planes except the Hs-123 and FW-189, making the point of any fighter beyond the level 4 one worthless. If they ever get around to adjusting the damage models of Moscow’s planes the IL-2 would be the least of your concerns there.
I uwed hte SB2 for a long time but found hte bombload not as useful as rockets - it is neither very powerful like the 250kg bombs, not accurate and placeable llike rockets - the worst of all worlds.
Haven’t used it for ages now - and of course wqithout MG’s what’s the point of being able ot outturn someone? It just delays the inevitable since the other fighters can jsut climb away and BnZ you time after time.
Any good SB2 user can map wipe with those fab-100’s, might not be as strong as the 250kg’s like the JU-188 but it can still do a great job, I’ve gotten 15+ Kills with a tank or two multiple times with it.
Also with this player base, do you really expect anyone to boom and zoom, with mg’s and cannons that tickle planes. It might not be able to defend itself yet, but it can get on the tail of any plane that isn’t the starting fighter and annoy them enough to leave them alone, and once tail gunners are introduced it’ll be difficult to fight with any plane in moscow.
I guess I wasn’t a good SB2 pilot then - all I did was spend enough tiem and energy to fully star it and then decide it’s not actually very good. Pretty sure I killed no more than 3 tanks in all that time . and yes you can get high kills - as you can with any bomber - but I was not getting high kills regularly even on maps like the Sawmil invasion when the axis was trying to cross teh river… I remember them well.
Subsequently I don’t think I’ve seen an SB2 in a game since before Christmas, and I mostly play Moscow.
So congratulations on your experiences - but I do not think they are typical.
And you can’t tout the SB2 as good in the hands of a good pilot, an then say there aren’t good fighter pilots - that’s pretty narrow view on things.
BnZ in Enlisted isn’t the big thing that it is in WT - getting back up to 5-600m is usually enough - I do it in all campaigns with all aircraft - even the Sturmoviks and SBD’s - it is a pretty trivial tactic. And an SB2 can’t “get on the tail” of any fighter that does it, because it doesnt’ ahve good enough performance.
