Oh completely forgot that germans doesnt have to as the entire front is pen-able on jumbo.
No sarcasm.
And yet you continue cry because you just want to point and click without proper challenge.
Oh hey probably cant go thru panther either so no need to cry.
well good thing that the jumbo’s AP shell will non pen the frontal hull if you angle it, funny how that works out
again i don’t use jumbo, and jumbo’s AP shell will struggle against someone an actual brain, so while you’re over here crying, i’ll be here slaying jumbos in the panzer 3n
I flanked a Jumbo with the sd.kfz and shot the side of the jumbo at like 5 yards, but it still bounced a few shells, almost died in the process. That’s bs. You can’t kill it with a 50mm unless you shoot the ammo rack, which sometimes still takes more than 2 shots to blow
Dont worry jumbo will do just fine against panther. You just need to get behind it. Shouldnt be a problem for you.
Idk why are you crying about the panther as you constantly keep bringing up how good you are ?
Infact idk what are you doing at all here at forums with your superior skills & braincells.
Your reading comprehension is astounding. Here is me explaining to someone who is so low iq, I almost need to make a drawing:
Jumbo is an overpowered pos, it is unhistorical and it is an absolute joke it is in the Normandy campaign.
A 20 was a ridiculously op plane which got slightly nerfed. P47 is essentially unchanged and it is know to delete have the map with the hvars.
Abusing p47+p51+a20 + jumbo ensured I’d win 9 games out of 10. I do not need to test things after the bomb nerf with the US, after playing enough with the Germans and seeing that ju88 bombs being to weak to kill jumbo anymore. Which, through the power of logical inference can help me conclude that jumbos are even more powerful than before, and the hvars on the p47 cannot be matched by any bomber that germany has, so I am still wiping the map of US infantry and tanks, while germans are no longer capable of that. Hence my ability to win with the US has not changed. In fact, I have every reason to believe it has been enhanced. Do you get it? Or do you really need a drawing?
Please stop using using terms of which meaning you clearly do not understand. You have abused the meaning of the words “complain” and “cry” so much, they don’t mean anything anymore. In the future, use the dictionary if word meanings escape you so much.
Are you unironically arguing that jumbo is both balanced (lol) and historical? You are grasping at straws and it is getting silly.
please cite where i said it’s both?
Don’t remove tanks, just add more 
Panther, Tiger.
Firefly, m10.
i don’t know if you are trolling or unironically retarded
i’m not even crying about panther sooo please cite that
To put it bluntly, most of the reason why the German army will lose is that the German players’ ability is extremely low. My German army of level 14 can even arm wrestle with the American army of level full. I have seen with my own eyes how weak the tanks are in the battle between masters, and the American army’s players’ quality is higher than the German army’s. German players do not want to improve their level but in the forum almost rascal crying miserably, they are the balance of the hangman, now the US army can only rely on tanks and planes to suppress the low quality of the German army, if the German army met high quality, sorry, allied forces will only be beaten shit, no exception to any map
statistics disagree with you. There are enough players that there are good and bad enough for both sides. It’s all about maps, weapons, and vehicles.
this isn’t the case since player skill would matter more than the weapons themselves…i would know since i top scored with carbines and no vehicles
However, the allied small arms were obviously overwhelmed by German small arms. In terms of vehicles, before the Big MAC came out, Sherman’s AP and Panzer IV’s APCBC were not of the same magnitude in terms of anti-vehicles. Even with the Big MAC, the anti-vehicles capability was still not as good as that of the First APCBC.
Are small arms and tanks good or bad enough? Don’t kidding, in terms of small arms, the German weapon level is all the way after g43 rolling allied, German fg42 and mg42 let the level is achieved, vehicle, explosion in sauce before the personnel ability in anti-vehicle and cannot compare, sauce blasting appeared just let this disadvantage into advantage slightly, air vehicle, The BF110 is better than the P38 in ground attack and interception capability, and can even compete with the P47, while the JU188 is a full bomb truck with better ground attack capability than the A20. Is that balance?
Bullshit, the P47 is the best all-purpose aircraft in the game. The P38 is the best plane for maneuvering combat, for it can turn at extremely low speed, dropping pursuit from the tail. The A-20 has machine guns and kills Ju if it appears in the air.
Until the Ju gets turrets, I consider anyone who says aviation equals deeply misguided.
There is nothing more ridiculous than a top fw-190 that is less maneuverable than a P38 and P47, much less a P51. GREAT TOP FIGHTER!!!
German weapons are better in some aspects. The FG is good, but you still only need to fire 1 shot from Garand and kill it. As a reminder, the Jumbo is not punctured by the FG.
The difference between American weapons and German weapons is convenience, but not humiliation, like with planes or tanks. An infantryman always dies from a single BAR or Garand bullet. Yes, your magazine is smaller, but the BAR’s rate of fire allows you to avoid wasting extra ammo, unlike the MG.
Thompson is the best SMG.
So yes, infantry weapons are the best with the Germans, but I don’t care how many FGs the enemy team has if you have 2 Jumbos and a P47\A-20 in the air. That way the Americans will always win, because they have an advantage in the sky due to more firepower, and the jumbo is invulnerable to everything but aircraft in the gray zone.
You know, if the Germans are so cool, play for them! I admit that the small arms are better in most, but the vehicles is noticeably worse, but I love infantry and play it 90% of the time, so I like the German side better. If I wanted tanks or planes, I’d play for the Allies.
However, if you think the Axis are better at everything, I think you should think about your game. I’m 90%+ of matches in first place with a 2-4 kill margin over the entire team, but still not every battle ends in victory. I see people with the same weapon (FG 42) doing 30-40 kills when I do 180. So guns are not a panacea.
If you want the FG analog, I want the Jumbo analog, the P47 and the A-20, and also the Thompson (STG-44). Otherwise it looks extremely selfish. Personally, I don’t like the balance of tanks, that I expect it to improve in the future, as well as the balance of small arms.
The insanity of not being able to follow a conversation to figure out my reply was sarcastic in tone.
Still does not change the fact jumbo has to go.
However, my experience was almost the same as yours, when I was in the first place with my infantry squad alone, my Allies with their vehicles didn’t kill as much as I did, and I was able to kill as many Germans at level 14 as full-rank Americans. By the way, there is no need to worry about wasting ammo mg, because no one can kill mg mg, vehicles can be discussed, but weapons, sorry Allies must be strengthened (PS: I’ve talked to my friends countless times about using fw190F8 instead of A8, with one 250kg and four 50kg bombs (or equivalent rockets) for the payload, I’m not going to consider the army vehicle, I’ll wait until the next version to consider my own balance, I’m not going to take sides with any one faction, that’s my principle
Then maybe the problem is that you’re playing for the wrong side, which pluses suit you?
I’m incredibly annoyed by Jumbos and Allied Planes, but I enjoy guns because I want to.
Another one with reading comprehension issues. I am max level on all campaigns.
There is no such thing as “my nation” unless you are a new player with a few hours played who has serious difficulty understanding the game meta. And you sure sound like one.
Please return to share your views once you have enough hours played to have unlucked level 29 so you can understand what is being discussed here.
Silly comments about “my nation”, “your nation” etc are just childish.
Also, the discussion about bomb tnt equivalent in a game that completely ignores it is just mind boggling.
You must be very confused about the game you are playing. In enlisted, which is not a simulation, 500 kg bombs have a twice as large damage radius and damage compared to 250 kg bombs. That’s it.
Even in war thunder, from where you quote those values, the differences between bombs are marginal and stat cards are meaningless because they mean nothing in practice.