Remove M4A3E2 Jumbo from Normandy

thx bro! i reached level 29 leaving matches.

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What are you even on about? US has a virtually unkillable tank (yes, I have finished many games in it without getting killed), and two extremely overpowered planes: a20 and p47.

Ju88 bombs are completely trash now, after the nerf. While a20 500kg bombs still wipe out 20 infantry at once, and p47 wipes out an entire area because rockets are still fine and the explosion radius update does not affect rockets which can kill infantry through cover and have the same radius as pre-nerf 100kg bombs radius (which makes them better than current 250kg bombs). on top of that, it has a 500kg bomb, meaning it can kill any german tank (while 250kg bombs cannot kill most US tanks, even if that fall right on top of the tank).

Germans are completely shafted on invasion maps right now (every vehicle they have is worse then the US equivalent). And the only chance they have to win is to hope the other team is extremely stupid (which is the case 50% of the time).

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Replace Jumo with E8 depends with same upgrades.

You really think everything your faction has is shit and the enemy is op. Start playing both sides and we can start arguing. What you type right now is worth nothing.

Oh and A20 has 500lb bombs that is is 226kg. JU188 has 1500kg of bombs and A20 has 904kg.
So that A20 bombs are still super strong to you and JU188 is bad should at least show you that you are biased right? Cmon

So basically you are saying that Germans win 50% of the time because the other team is stupid … You do realize a 50% win rate means balance right?

Regardless of equipment, if you win 50% of the time then the campaign is balanced.

Like I said anti German company.

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Panther can also have a size of matchbox weakspot in front of it so its balanced.

That doesnt mean the equipments are balanced. It means both factions have fair share of retards.
And if your argument is that things should be balanced by judging how retards does with said equipment.
We all should have aimbot by now.

I presume you are arguing because you want to win more matches? But why do you even care about equipment if you are already getting a 50% win rate?

Unless it’s you who want an unfair advantage?

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Dont really care about overall winrate as its fking stupid argument when speaking of balance of equipment.
Technically with this logic we could revert the LMG’s back to AR / SMG’s as the overall winrate was exactly the same.
We also could add the Panther / Tiger and it wouldnt change the overall winrate to any direction.
We could also add nuclear bombs for planes that kills everyone on the map. If both factions has equal attack / defense ratio the game would be “balanced” because the “Overall winrate” is still 50 / 50 regardless no one else is capable of playing while the nuke planes are in the air.
Or we could even go far as adding aimbot for everyone as that wouldnt change the overall winrate to any direction either.

SO yes, the “Overall winrate” is pretty poor argument when speaking of equipment.

Or is that the reason why you are so against adding a panther that could compete with jumbo or against nerfing jumbo ?

The Americans have much better vehicles. The mere fact that the A20 and P47 have machine guns means they are better ju in the sky. That just fodder they will shoot down immediately. 100 fights out of 100.
The German fw-190 sucks. The P47 twists it on turns while carrying 4-5 times as many bombs or missiles. The P38s are much more survivable, plus they don’t drop at extremely low speeds, which allows you to drop German planes from the tail, and have a bunch of missiles.
About tanks we’ve already talked about.
The Germans have a better certain infantry weapons, but the machine is much more decisive in the match.
However, I often play infantry and not ready to give up the usual rifles in favor of the plane.

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Now you really are being obtuse and ridiculous …

For the record once again I am not against the Panther or Tiger … they are historical for the time frame. and if you just want to play with those vehicles they have them now in WT and WOT.

Go play them now to your hearts content … Maybe one day they will add them here just for you … so that you can see … as you say they

And why wont they change the win rate? Because you will still be the one using them … Git Gud …

Quite true

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Yes I agree…sturmpistole is just trash but also with explosive packs u have to get lucky or throw it right under the Jumbo to kill it while pz 4 gets killed when it lands next to it…tiger would be as hard to kill as Jumbo…both tanks would have to be killed at their weak spots and it would be fair and the difference between 88mm and 75mm is big so tiger could still take on infantry

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Why would they ? According to your overall winrate argument Jumbo havent changed the winrate so why would a panther do so ?

So you are just more against the fact that you would actually get competive opponent when panther would arrive to the field ?
Yes we are exactly speaking of said tanks at enlisted forums because we want to play WOT / WT.
No sarcasm.

Ah, so you are afraid that the winrate would change to favor of germans if you get equal opponent ?
Oh well il guess I can answer that problem with your own words.

ooooof oh no whyy there only were 50 made with the “porsche turret” and they give us that then…ooooof thats sooo stupid

Fw is a fighter plane not an attacker, pretty good fighter plane at that. P47 is an attacker plane. Different slots.

But P47 is better as a fighter Its funny)

It is not, fw has better stats all round.

Only the 20mm bug is anoying that it shoots itself empty at 100 bullets.

Stats figures are nonsense. fw Has no combat flaps, loses in maneuverability to any American plane except the a-20 in practice.
The P38 can drop speed and let the fw go forward because the p38 can fly at very low speed, the P51 is faster to turn, and the p47 is not inferior.
The fw-190 is a fighter that loses everything in maneuvering combat. Its real flight model is broken, the plane is constantly twitching, flipping, turning unbearably slow.

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except jumbo also has another weak spot that most players don’t care about, the cupola, that all german tanks can exploit but it’s becoming self evident that germains like yourself don’t care about POWER CREEP