Remove kill cams

I’m sure it’s been posted on here before, but dev should very seriously consider the removal of the kill cam. You have tracer rounds that fire off from everything in the game already, let players use that to surmise where enemies are.

It is very frustrating to spend several minutes sneaking/climbing/spelunking your way to a great sniper position, pop a guy from far off, and be counter-sniped by often the same person with another member of their squad because your location has been immediately highlighted on their previous death.

It feels this game rewards much more for offensive risk rather than any kind of strategy or positioning. It is sad to see that far off tank positioning and sniping is more accurate and effective than an actual sniper, due to AT weapons being garbage from far off and regular bullets bouncing off while tank guns are crazy good.

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I’ve never liked the kill cam silhouettes either.

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i think kill cams would only be for the top three scorers in the match

it’d be great if they do kill cam based on enemy’s perspective. I mean that it would’ve been so much better if you had to figure out enemy’s position based of his perspective, so you wouldn’t know where he shot from exactly, as for now i feel like this dumb little kid when game is showing me who killed me and where from exactly

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Not the greatest fan of the killcam as well.

But as for snipers - you might act like this: shoot, change position, shoot, change position…and so on.
I do this and am able to hold a certain ratio of a position while changing within.

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and this is why i don’t mark enemies that often, they either get killed by the person they killed first or they just move somewhere else.

Campers are angry to get spotted on their camping position … great ! DF dont move a thing its perfect !

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No kill cam= camper
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So it have stay

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I would seriously remove tracer from small arms as well, it’s a ww2 game not star wars

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sometimes, the kill cam doesn’t really helps me on finding the enemy when they killed me from far far away.
so maybe snipers should consider sniping from far far away place?

and have you ever tried sniping from far far away? spoiler: it’s hard and you’re way more effective if you stay little bit closer

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it’s almost as if you want to camp in one spot safely with little risk of counter sniping, you need to be good at sniping from long range! it’s like the game is trying to tell you there’s downside to upsides!

that said i am quite annoyed that i got killed whenever i camp and snipe in closer range. but since this also helps me when countering a sniper, i feel it’s fair and not enough of a reason to demand kill cams removed.

If there is no kill camera, you may not find a sniper for a long time on some maps with many long-distance sniper positions. Like the real battlefield, you can only be slaughtered by others. If the sniper hides in a place in the ruins of a large high-rise building, you may not find it in a whole game

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But kill cam is active only when you kill a player, not a bot, so there is only 15 - 20 % chance that killing someone will reveal your position.

Overall - bad idea.

Having read the replies here, I see a lot of good points being made for it to remain. I actually didn’t know it only showed when killing an active player, I figured bots all turning and pointing you out was their version of an active kill cam, perhaps that’s just the AI itself.

I still feel there is a happy compromise somewhere, especially since the majority of snipers are all bolt action rifles (is there even a semi auto sniper rifle?). I still feel the kill cam removes the uniqueness of an entire class of soldier.

Perhaps if sniper rifles are unique weapons to the class, sort of like how AT rifles are only useable by AT gunners? If this were the case, you could remove kill cam from just the sniper class. Plenty of ability to still be found and counter sniped by regular rifleman, happens to me all the time, but provide actual sniper class soldiers something unique and reward those that are either very skilled from long distance shots or those that take time to find/build themselves a good position.

People crying that their method of killing people with no risk is immediately shut down because you are complete garbage with a sniper and you got counter sniped by a dude with iron sights

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I agree. When I play as a sniper, I don’t like the idea of killing one player (as opposed to a bot) will enable them to know exactly where I am located. That’s the point of being a sniper. Getting into good cover, and sniping the enemy team. If the enemy should spot me and thus be compromised, it should be because I stayed in one spot for too long, or because someone has good eyes. I should not be exposed by a silly hit cam.

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if at least they would get spotted by actual player, then they deserved to die.

Snipers are completely useless anyways right now, removal of this kill cam could change this.

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I understand where you are coming from, but its also a bit of a double edged sword. We’ve come across a fair number of cheaters due to the killcams. Usually its someone getting tons of kills while sitting in their spawn with absolutely no line of sight to anyone. Without the killcam though, we would have no idea what happened.

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Honestly I beg to differ. One of my buddies uses snipers only. He is extremely effective and useful on the field. He keeps things marked, kills off MG nests, AA, field guns, tank commanders, etc every chance he gets. Its actually very useful, but has to be used by someone willing to help the team, not just try to get a bunch of kills.