Remove enemy artillery warning?

It’s unrealistic and a nerf on artillery in general
to be able to see the enemy’s artillery coming in on the minimap and run away from it before a single shell lands. Right now HE artillery is only good for killing bots/bot-like players charging at the point in a straight line or incessantly shelling a roofless point to prevent capture. This pattern gets boring and even annoying after a while. Smoke artillery is fantastic, so I will praise it here. I think removing artillery warning will improve the usefulness of HE artillery and better reflect the historical lethality of artillery on the battlefield. Of course, I’d be glad to hear from those who disagree.

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i think that currently arty is in a good state and doesnt need to be changed

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I don’t think artillery in this game should be about killing enemies. Seeing as how there is no way to prevent artillery from being fired in the first place, I feel like its healthier to have the indicator so that you can deal with it by moving out of the way or seeking cover, and I think it does still provide a valuable tool as is.

Remember that when players are hiding from artillery or avoiding it, they aren’t doing something else. I’ve seen well placed artillery change the outcome of games while getting zero kills, because it forced a wave of reinforcements to spend an extra 20 seconds going around the circle instead of directly rushing the point. Its also great for discouraging people from camping out on hard to reach hills and picking people off all day from relative safety.

If it were able to catch players by surprise, and therefore get kills more reliably, then it would end up just being a constant source of unavoidable deaths and frustration for the receiving side, the way mortars can be, but without many of the limitations that mortars have.

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i think this is a good idea, would take away the awkardness of having a magic red circle to let you know when HE shells are about to headbutt you

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Warning should show up after the first shell hits (for the enemy). Currently it’s magic.

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no its balanced as it is, it doesn’t need any change.

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I agree, and in addition I’d like to see artillery calls changed to line of sight calls only, maybe with some binoculars to point out the target area.

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When Radioman player don’t get 10 kills with a single click:

tense-table-smash

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the red mark is for FRIENDLY arty

Btw, i suggest colloring friendly arty in another color instead of red, so teammates could differ it from enemy arty.

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dont fix what is not broken

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They are both red, just differentiated by different tones

Obviously there are other priorities in the game (e.g. bugged MG42 nests), but I’m just putting it out there as a possible thing to try out. You can’t make a game better in the long run if you never try to change anything besides fixing bugs.

I use radioman i every squad, arty is a very strong at the moment, if you know how to use it. I dont think it needs a buff.

There are indicators for every explosive thing in the game grenades, bombs… Why should arty be different?

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I think the blast radius & damage are perfect! Any more adjustments would make artillery just down-right OP. However, adding a distant (air raid siren) would make it more buffed. :wink: Losing your sense of comfort and having panic sounds fun -especially towards new players! :rofl:

mebbe cut the advance warning in half so there isnt a 10 second or something warning?

I’m fine with this as there are more muppets who don’t look at the minimap than those who are actually aware of it.

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Even build an AA with an hammer and hand gesture is not a joke :rofl:

It’s also magic but it’s necesarry for gameplay.
I wish we had AA and AT gun crews that have to tow guns and set them up but gameplay is too fast for such things. Hell, the game is too fast for bots to be useful imo.

is really too fast you don’t even get to take two steps from the spawn you have 2 tanks 1 bomber and 7 infantry squads in front of you and someone even called the artillery

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