Exept nobody suggested moving it into BR 3. If you read the post from earlier again you might see that SG was talking about a BR4 weapon beeing present in a BR 3-4 match.
No need to get rude just because you did not read the post you replied too.
Well, I think what he means by “being lucky” is moving this squad to BR3, perceptions vary.
And there’s no need to accuse others, be relaxed and not take everything seriously.
They ruined flammers nerfing them to oblivion. Useless now. Whats the point talking about it…
This is one of many legacy premium squads they refuse to FOMO
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Wait, did you mean a BR3-4 battle? I thought you meant reducing their BR to 3. I think there was a misunderstanding.
Although it still makes sense considering the numerous nerfs.
Not only that, the engineers (at least in some of them) also have mgs.
Premium squads have their own perks
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MGs are not a special weapon and thus can be pick up off the ground.
So that’s very bad example. As it doesn’t make much difference that less soldiers in your squad are equipped with MGs.
I am owner of both premium flamer squads. And I don’t see any need of them to be lowered to BR4. It’s obvious they’re superior to TT squads significantly.
I am the owner of both premium flamer squads. And I don’t see any reason why they are still BR5. It’s obvious they’re identical to the TT variants.
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We’ll keep an eye on this topic too, thanks
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A clearly blatant and tendentious lie.
Back before flamethrowers were nerfed. Most people literally considered these squads to be the best premium squads. And the most pay2win ones (because they’re obviously superior to TT equivalents in every way)
And suddenly when it suits you, they’re identical to TT squads. Good joke.
If these squads will be lowered to BR4. Then in a few months later, someone will come along who will use these obviously better squads as justification to reduce BR of TT squads/flamethrowers.
After the nerf that caused you to no longer be able to run while using the flamethrower came in effect. I would finally let flames to be unnerfed
It’s really ridiculous how long you can stand in flames without more or less any effect. And thus it doesn’t work at all as area of denial.
That would be a much better change than constantly reducing BRs of something that doesn’t need it at all.
Pretty sure he’s talking about the weapon itself, which at least from the enlisted resource sheet, is identical.
Yup I remember saying that too before nerf…but after the nerf though and the addition of BR? they are okay. Certainly not the powerhouse they were.
I think the main point, is if you look at all the BR 4 premiums, they all have more of a weapon type, and often unique or better than the TT. So yeah, having 2 extra flamers (even thought they are Identical to TT) is better than the TT squad, (if its the flamers you want, and not the choice of specialists)…but that goes for all the other premiums at BR 4 too.
- mg42 early
- mg45
- STG 45
- kiraly 39
- federov mg
- Beltfed DP
- type hei LMG
- winchester G30R
- Gerät 03
And that’s just BR 4.
BR is generally based on the weapons power, not the squad composition.
I’ve already said why I don’t think this is not the same situation as with the squads/weapons you mentioned.
It makes quite a difference if the enemy only needs to focus 2 soldiers instead of 4.
Well, if you want a crappy balance, then yes. There’s always a way to rationalize it. 
But I believe the overall context does matter.
maybe…But using the MGs for example, I know bots are far more likely to kill something with an automatic as they actually use the weapons (I dont think the flamer AI does)
Most of those weapons there are pretty decent in the BOTs hands. the more that have them in your squad the better.
…well what else gets assigned BR based on squad composition and not weapon power? I cant think of anything at the moment (not saying there isnt)
Well, premium flamethrower squads are a pretty specific case.
And in this case, the composition of the squads clearly makes huge difference. It would be lie to claim otherwise.
Personally, I don’t think that this has any significant weight on balance. If you wanted to minmax bots of TT squads, you might as well give them BAs instead of semis and they will also be very effective at getting kills.
But minmaxing the effectiveness of bots just isn’t worthwhile. At least from my perspective. It’s not comparable to ability to have 4 special weapons instead of just 2.
Yes they’re okay. And TT ones are underwhelming. Is this good reasoning for flamethrower being lowered to lower BRs?
I really don’t think so.
I would much rather to see them unnerfed and finally work as area of denial tool.
I don’t think lowering BRs is always the best and optimal solution.