if you do that, it’s going to screw over the US because US don’t have an assault rifle and a mkb is always better than a m2c(pure higher damage)
Wouldn’t it be pointless to place MkB42 in BR4 to lower the rating since BR4 will be thrown into a match with BR5?
Unless there is a dedicated match for BR4.
I use it in BR5 simply because I like the design of the MkB, but even so, the performance difference with the StG44 is not a big deal.
That little difference seems to have little effect on the game.
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That probably is the point, to give better equipment for BR4 since they will fight BR5 anyway.
I understand the logic, but then it makes less and less sense to separate BR4 and BR5.
If the rule is that So,BR5 is only matched with BR5, then it would make sense to align BR4.
My ideal would be.
BR1-2, BR3-4, and BR5 to have games matched in three queues.
Then BR3 is obsolete.
Only 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5 won’t make things instantly obsolete. But it’s 2 extra queues and devs hesitate to add even one.
It is indeed quite complicated, but BR system is what it is. Hence I dont really mind lowering some gear BR. Like mkb for example, its quite pointless transition weapon in BR5, not only is kiraly imo better than mkb but the fact that you unlock rather fast the mp43 which is alot better than mkb and stg44 is rather easy to unlock as well.
So while mkb is quite pointless weapon in BR5 in BR4 it would be improvement and theoretically make the br4 vs br5 bit more bearable.
Only problem with lowering guns in BR is the lower BR’s in current terms.
id be willing to settle even br 1-2 and 3-4-5. Ideally every BR would have own que but quite sure theres not enough players.
It’s just to prepare ahead of time.
Right now, tier 4 is a filler tier nobody should really stay at.
But once there’s a third queue 1-2 , 2-3-4, 4-5, tier 4 becomes playable like all other tiers with br +/-1.
It’s just one extra queue when you think about it, not 2.
To understand better, tier 1, 3 and 5 have their own queues, and tier 2 and 4 can be matched each in 2 of them.
The end result is each br can face +/-1 it’s own br value.
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Not a good queue suggestion, since BR3 would immediately replace BR4 in its current role. Impossible to be top BR in match.
We just need for every Bsr to have own queue. 5 queues aren’t much. You can still wait 2min+ if you want to play popular faction atm. And yes, even now faction bias do exist.
So obv, low number of queues isn’t working solution.
Btw. It’s really funny how they’re presenting to us 5 different BRs, when in reality. We have only 3 atm. There’s no difference between BRs 1/2 and BRs 4/5. They literally do have the same queue role.
It wouldn’t, thought.
ALL br would face +/-1 br of their own value, except 1, that cannot go lower, and 5, that cannot go higher (for now!!!)
Would be better than br 1 vs 3, or br 3 vs 5, like now… 
Okay, but that’s not what you have said.
You have missed (1-)2-3 queue. There’s no queue in which BR3 would be in top.
In that case, you would need queues like this:
1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5.
(Btw. playing BR1 would always meant to be downtiered, but it is true you can obtain BR2 equipment very quickly tho)
And that’s why I think ±0 BR MM is better solution.
There’s no significant difference between 4 queues and 5 queues. And ±0 BR mm is more fair.
BR3 should not be victim of low number of queue. And that’s the case with your queue suggestion.
It’s hard to explain, but only 3 queues would suffice
NO br would ever be guaranteed being top (except br 5).
Also, if it’s easier to understand, instead of naming the 3 queues 1-2, 2-3-4, 4-5, think of it as queues A, B, C, or low, mid, high. I concede when I wrote “2-3-4”, it looked like 2 could face 4.
But br 2 would join queue “mid” only if there’s not enough br 4, that would be shoved in “high”.
Complicated.
All I mean in a technical standpoint, is that it’s possible to have br +/-1, using only 3 queues.
As for each br +/-0, that’s counterproductive. The whole point of the war thunder update was to fill up lobbies. Just remove br altogether and bring back campaigns while we’re at it
That’s not what I am talking about. Some BRs would have chance to be top, but some would never get such chance.
Using your suggestion, BR1 and BR3 would never had chance to be top BR in match.
BRs 2 and 4 would just replace role of current BR3. That’s your suggestion.
We would get 2 tombola BRs. And BR3 would be always stucked between BRs 2 and 4, never having chance to be top BR in match.
I don’t see how this can be healthy solution for the game.
I think BR placement of weapons should be a separate topic to the BR system.
Though you guys are right that there isn’t even a point in having this discussion, when BRs dont even work properly.
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Yeah, sorry for derailing topic.
It is healthy, PRECISELY because you cannot guarantee one br is always “top” except 5, because there’s no br 6 yet.
Also as I said, +/-1. Forget 2-3-4 if it’s too complicated, call it “mid”. Br 2, wouldn’t meet 4.
The same thing applies for current queue situation. 
You are just lowering tombola effect of BR3, so there’s no ±2 BR MM.
But it is still not fair MM. And BR1 and BR3 would always be in disadvantage.
Plus instead of one tombola BR3, we would get 2 tombola BRs 2 and 4.
It doesn’t:
Because of how badly flawed it is, most br 3 players can know immediately if they are uptiered or downtiered.
If downtiered, they desert. And retry to find a Tunisia or Moscow match, to be top dogs…
Game needs more queues.
It needs 5 queus for every BR seperately. Merge haven’t solved faction bias. There’s no significant difference in playing with full team of bots or casual players.
There’s always unbalance in the matter of team quality. Based on how certain factions are popular atm.
Meaning there’s no real point to have low number of queues.
5 queues for every BR is what we need. They will never expand into more queues like campaigns would. It is the most fair solution imho.
As it has been said it’s better to discuss it by creating a new topic for BR balancing.
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Nah.
I was against war thunder br since the start, br+/-0 would make it worse. It’s fun to see different equipment from time to time, br+/-1 is the way to go.