Reasoning why lowering STG45(M) and Mkb42(H)/(W) to BR3 is a good idea

There are no competition against PPSh-41 box at BR3 it’s so good that it may as well be a BR6 weapon so i won’t even bother putting BR3 Axis smgs on the chart since all of them will lose even Kiraly of BR5, dispersion is so low (0.21) that it’s better than STG45(M) and even PPSh-41 drum.

PPSh-41 box of BR3 kills faster on average than STG45(M) of BR5. When Soviet solder is not wearing a body armor it only affects ranges of 80m and above so it’s irrevelant, and this tool doesn’t even mention that bullets at close range can bounce from time to time against their armor so ttk will be even higher in certain situations.
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Ppsh-41 box need their dispersion corrected since right now it’s better than ppsh-41 drum:

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With much lower dispersion and no recoil PPSh-41 box simply dominates over STG45(M) and all Axis smgs at all distances. STG45(M) and Mkb42 both belong at BR3 and should receive a buff to the accuracy.

Only problem would be Americans having to fight against weak ARs i would suggest to bring better Thompsons to BR3, Americans already have BARs that are pretty much a BR5 FG42.
There is also option to add two different Hyde Carbines one with 600 rof and 20 bullets and other at BR5 with higher rof of 900-1200 and mag size of 30.
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Br4, maybe.

Br3??? No…

Ppsh41(box) is broken. It’s more likely it’s dispersion will be normalized instead…

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BR4 does not exist, br4= uptier to br5 every time.

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Not always :thinking:

Soft rule does work for me, when axis or sovs…

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EXCEL_CqConY2MXH
EU server BR4 Axis not a single BR4 match

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Absolutely not. Ppsh 41 box is broken and it needs to be fixed. We should not start downtiering every weapon. Next we will have stg 44s and t20s killing people with springfields and kars

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MKb 42 in BR III?

you gotta be kidding me

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The stg 45 is only slightly better than the br2 mkb 35. (In my opinion obviously)

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So you want 2 problems instead of one?. Remember that Br1 players may face br3 too.

They better just nerf (fix) the ppsh and that’s it. The mkb and kiraly could fit well in br4 tho

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I see potential in BRIV (after all, the AKT is in BRIV despite being a SF) but BRIII would be over the top just because the devs didnt fix the stick PPSH.

the problem is Dregomz never thinks ahead. He makes his own shortcomings into general truths and facts.

StG 45 and MKb 42 belongs to IV imo.
But III? Jesus Christ.

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FML yoz can’t give anything to Soviet mains without them abusing it, Germany has Orita1941 with literally the same broken dispersion and yet no one is abusing that.

Isn’t this gun a premium weapon linked to a medic squad with only four dudes ? Ppsh box is free and its dispersion should be fixed honestly. As for Mkb at BR 3 ? Yeah; nah thanks maybe 4 but defo not 3

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Maybe because it’s a premium that also got removed?

+horn stg, but really 3br is too much, as conscript earlier said better nerf ppsh box.

I can see why I don’t frequent here anymore. This is just a schizo idea.

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if you ever been playing with MKb 42 post merge against top-tier equipment you def will feel it’s a bit lackluster. You will do well, but in all honesty: it should be IV. But putting in III is just outrageous.

When the matchmaker fails to find players; newcomers (BR I) with under 1H of playtime will face veterans with MKb 42s. Like wtf.

Pls think through ideas before presenting them.

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I appreciate that you actually thought of how this will affect the Allies and given us something in return for your desire to compete against Russian SMG’s

Nerf superior Russian arms? You’re out of your mind

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More like a fix at this point…

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