Rank should matter in MM

Rank should matter in MM. It’s not really fun to have such battles. The only good thing is they are usually pretty short but being on the stomping side nor being at the recieveing end is fun. Why was rank introduced if MM is not using it.
I returned after a break to check new merged campaign. It’s good that I’m no longer stomped by impenetrable tanks and full-auto squads. So it’s one step towards balanced matches but still if you put veterans on one team (likely with maxed and optimized squads for low BR and some even teamed together for superior coordination) against mostly new players who are just starting or grinding the way up is not smart idea and especially if you plan to go on Steam so many new players will be clubbed and I’m not sure how many will endure to spend something or increase playerbase.
On the other hand turkey shooting and competing for kills with very little effort when you get to the other side is not fun either.

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Pls no

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  1. nobody wants SBMM
  2. ranks are not SBMM, nor measure of skill. they are measure of grind. even shittiest player can get marshal rank if he grinds thousand battles and doesnt desert.
  3. it is easy to smurf with just deserting and bringing your score down.
  4. there are not enough players to enforce BR MM and SBMM.
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Still it means such player plays longer, likely knows maps better, grinded more so most likely has better equipment. There can be bad players just grinding or rank cheating but usually those with golden rank are listed among the top players at the scoreboard at the end.
Look at other games. The entry tier for most MMO games counts with that and having new players with stock squads - missing nearly 40-50% menpower, specialized troops, upgraded weapons, pistols, grenades, backpacks encounter BRII marshals with maxed squads with end tier troops just with BRII upgraded weapons is silly and will likely not end well. Yes it was worse without BR the game was incredibly hostile and punishing for new players. Now they at least won’t see tigers or jumbos while driving PzII or Stuart.

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If you care about winning stay far away from germany, I think i have like 30% WR after coming back from merge. People don’t build rallies, sit in tank on maps they are dogshit in and do nothing all match, and just generally has terrible players. I’ve had multiple games this week were me and a friend pull nearly 200 kills a piece in invasion matches and we only win by like 50 tickets at the end. German teams tend to frag well, but they just don’t fucking play the objectives or build spawns, and you don’t win games just by killing people, objectives matter more. Having to run 150m to points when the other team is 50m away is just not it. God forbid you jump in a vic because it means your team isn’t going to have rallies.

I play BRV and II germany and its the same in both, V is little better but not by much.

Like @robihr said.

In short, ranks in Enlisted doesn’t mean “I’m good” or “I’m bad”

They just mean “I play a lot” or “I don’t play much”

Generally golden ranks play a bit better than silver ones (during the end of battle pass season) simply because they know the game a bit more by playing often.

They don’t aim better, they’re not faster in reflexes, they don’t camp less…

So, no.

In truth, I believe those ranks are a really bad addition to the game and should be removed entirely. All they ever managed to do, is confusing players like you. They’re just negative.

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I care about balanced match. It’s more satisfying to win or even lose if for example invasion gets to the last point and the battle ends and you are fighting hard as the enemy does too and it’s not clear to the last second who will win as the last tickets tick.

But games where I cannot even capture first objective and defenders are even pushing us out to the gray zone or when defending and our objectives are falling one by one while you are trying to run back are really bad.

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and you will never get balanced matches. even if you include SBMM you cant force people to play every side evenly for SBMM to work. playerbase shifts. ffs first month after merge anyone playing germans had over 90% WR cause everyone was playing germans and grinding for KT. now people switched to playing US/SSSR and there are not enough players for germans to get easy victories. wait next month and that will change again.

Bonus (XP/silver) to join any team/side that was suggested by players for years could easily help with that.

Yes.

But sbmm won’t…

It’s all about trends.

You can guess which faction is trendy thanks to forums.

Like now, Sovs are trendy because they got recent buffs for their already powerful small arms (rd44 is unparalleled, ass44 best assault rifle in the game, fedov, etc.)
As well as USA, because it’s announced that Pershings are coming probably next update.

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Rank means almost nothing … so why fret …

Yes, i got the same problem also. Especially when playing as both Russian and western allies

There is no MM, its tier Qs, so no rank shouldn’t matter in MM. Rank can be manipulated so go complain about your bad playstyle somewhere else. Rank MM is very bad and most games that have it where are they now, DEAD and very few remain.

That’s me!

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People obviously love saying this, but in my experience the team with more high ranking players is significantly more likely to win a match. There may be other factors at play, but the only other indicator that I find more accurate is which team has more name decorators.

How would you explain this discrepancy in your theory?

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In the same post where you took my quote.

Did you even read all of it?

How do you explain your selective reading?

So what’s your point then? Do you think rank indicates something or not? If teams with more high ranking players are more likely to win, wouldn’t it stand to reason that an effort to balance those ranks between teams would result in more balanced matches?

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and it would make sense for pc players to only play with pc players and stacks to only play against stacks.

there is just one problem with all of those… find me the players to populate the queues.

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it would, the problem is there’s not enough players, each game you’re matched against players that are simply available at given moment I believe, can’t imagine players being scattered around different factions, BRs and on top of that ranks.

I can just purposely desert few matches to lower my rank. :man_shrugging:
This would not solve anything. Rank means basically nothing. And it can be easily manipulated.

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