here are actual stats for both guns
please tell me how fg42 II has superior handling to AVS36, or how it has better recoil pattern?
I was waiting for you to say that just to contradict yourself. Good job, if DF adds bayonet to FGs like irl, then its a 100% meta rifle that has better automatic sniping capability than a sniper rifle considering that its accuracy is too good in its current form. Keep crying, it makes me laugh a ton when people like you love to whine on wrong things and continue to do so while the real OP faction just keeps growing and keep mowing Germany like its a lawn that keeps getting mowed by lawn mower. And you guys try so hard to find tiny details to justify your reason for crying that Germanyâs equipment âsufferâ from Soviets âOPâ equipment like Body armor that doesnât do anything good even. Any rifle can 1 shot if its manual, or average 2 shots if its semi. Having body armor doesnât even make things better. I have heard BS like "Helmet gives you -10% damage to neck and head while I get 2-3 shotted by smg on head and 1 shot from all rifles. So get over it.
Sorry I donât know meta, nor I ever wanted to know, nor I ever cared about meta stuff in game. I just want to have fun being a lawn mower 5000 with both MG 34 PT, and MG 42. If you care about meta, go to allies. They are OP at everything from rifles, smgs, mgs, tanks, and planes.
So are you saying that AVS recoil is better than FG? 
No wonder I donât really read this type of shit like I am smoking something. Here is the clip on how accurate FG is in comparison to AVS along with recoil management on same ADS sensitivity on 1.15. (Notice, AVS recoil is so bad that it literally makes you blind and firing up all the time):
Here is the result of medium range test for MG 13, Blue is full auto, red is tap fired:
As you can see, its pretty accurate for a mere lmg which is why bunch of them uses MG 13 as a mid range rifle.
Yeah I agree they both are good in their own fields.
âTell me that you never tried P-40E1 without telling meâ P-40E1 is god awful and overrated plane that struggled to turn even. Even getting away from dive bombing is so hard that I should just kamikaze and call it a day. It canât even dogfight IAR and always beats P-40E1 because IAR is more maneuverable than P-40E1.
Using gold as compensation is good idea for those event guys. But at least you got russian PPSH to beat PPSH used by Soviets so it doesnât matter.
So in conclusion, when battling against Soviets. Germany and Soviet have their own strength and weakness which is okay. But if you still rely on those spreadsheet to justify your outcries⌠Then keep crying as usual. If you want to improve Germany, then focus on building rallies and being good tankers, not those blind douchebags who does no shit as engineer nor tanker.
I will end discussion on that and if you still think Soviet is âsuperiorâ than Germany, then keep crying, bring nerd shit, and whining. Only thing I agree with you is that Allies lacks weakness and stronger than both of Germany and Soviets in everything.
I am asking you one simple thing and you cant even do that. You really are too stupid to get the actual weapon stats.
Well I did simple thing to just test the weapon on my own. Didnât I said that I donât really do that nerd shit? Are you too stupid to still rely on this spreadsheet just to stay blind like tankers⌠Nvm just keep crying that this point with that spreadsheet.
Yes, we all know how OP it is.
And we totally believe you that you happen to be the onlyone who always ends up suffering against this OP as fk LMG, while rest of us havent really seen it since moscow campaign ~2022 ?
Its just bad luck on your behalf.
Yet again I totally agree, just your bad luck that you end up being ravaged by these OP lmgâs while rest of us havent seen them for good few years now.
Dont really think anyone denied the strenght. Just the usability of it, which you clearly dont understand most likely due to fact that you dont care about meta as you said.
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Btw when was this updated even? Its statcard information is incorrect which is a doubt to ever trust that spreadsheet at this point
Not really, it does great job as a medium range rifle. I donât really suffer much, its just that lmg is too good to call it OP on BR 2 range.
Sorry its your imagination that says that MG34 is bad while you either donât play and come here to parrot and whine. Suggest comming back to BR 1-3 range and you will see how much soviets get shattered by MG34 with good teamwork.
I believe German mains underestimate their great equipment (sometimes OP) which is why you are whining right now. Especially FG42 II accuracy which is better than AVS due to good recoil. Just keep crying or play allies if you care about meta so much. If you donât then German and Soviet is suitable for you.
Oh motherfucker, people are telling you for ages now that the recoil stats ingame are wrong and you are still so goddamn stupid to check it. Especially since it even differs between max and stock stats
Even the stupid datasheet says that there are Statcard and Actual Recoil stats but you still say that the FG has more recoil because of either ingame stats or feelong. So what does KGB think the author wants to say with that? Definitly not that there is more behind the stats and that card stats are 100% true. No, it must be feelings.
And we ofc should always rely on expierence of someone who cant read and rage-quitted and deleted their accounts a while ago because those are definitly the most skilled players out here.
You know⌠instead of looking at actual data behind it that make a weapon act like it acts because it is all based on feelings. Would love to know how balance works based on feelings, especially based on feelings from KGB. Increase recoil by 2xKGB-feeling.
Actually, even avs36 has better recoil stats than FG42.
Then again with your logic, just use ppsh against fg42.
I literally have footage of me using both of them, literal visual evidence of both of them. Btw I already mentioned that the spreadsheet looks outdated by incorrect statcard data.
Well war thunder is more frustrating than enlisted here. But thats not main reason. Its because I just wanna restart grinding and playing normally after the merge since I donât have anything important to lose. If you donât want to see the footage and rely on this spreadsheet, go ahead keep deluding to yourself that âSoviet Bias makes Germany sufferâ type shit while getting bombarded with shitty teamwork, and Allies.
Is it really feelings when I showed you the evidence on how much more recoil you can control on FG? If its feelings then I shouldnât send you this footage and continue to argue without any proper evidence. Really should learn when to trust your eyes more than numbers on a mere spreadsheet that looks outdated.
Again, you are deluding with that CaptainSebekel by looking at mere numbers in spreadsheet but not the footage I recently sent.
Well PPSH is a smg that rifleman canât use. Stay relevant as this is about rifleman type class only by comparing AVS and FGs. But sure would love to use PPSH against FG42 people either way.
Well keep crying lmfao
Never expected to argue with a literal cry baby german now, I miss the days when German mains were good and donât bring this tiny dipshit infos from random dataminer just to justify their reason to whine. I guess this how the Germany superiority era ended because of blind people here and in game. Anyways enjoy this meme:
y more and have a good day.
Which people even? You mean 3 cry babies like you, tupolis, and rohir?
Well its more to the toxic community in GE that take things too seriouslyâŚa lot of Wehraboos with king tigers expecting new German players to have same equipment as them one person even ask me why do I use Panther and not King Tiger ⌠
Its just toxic community that pushed people out of their faction you can see them in forum in game same toxic behavior. Now many people moved to western allies I also moved to US from Germany but didnât moved from Japan cuz there the community is solid. There is a lot of nice players in German community but one big part now is maxing best stats cry babies and if you dare to play for fun Ohhh my god you better move to another faction so we did and look at them now Empty and outnumbered on every BR while Western Allies dominate them