Fair point. I was thinking about the survivability of the KV against inf without the Panzerfaust. But the T-34s are indeed more versaille in other areas.
That is why certain 76mm Shermas are in BRV because they are cleary OP.
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Not really, I played germany and soviet union so can confirm that those german equipments are great too. But what I heavily noticed is that American weapons are significantly op than Soviets including their tanks like M3 Lee. And yes this MF that grills the whole Germany defender by ton and burns me inside tank to death even ;-;.
Try Pz 3N’s HEAT rounds on KV-1 and Shermans, you will literally find the reason why its such a common and beloved tank that they will sacrifice any tanks beyond Pz 3N until they reach the panther series. The HEAT round now is like capable of doing 100mm pen, even if it doesn’t pen, they damage crew and component by tons.
Ok I admit PPS have higher ROF, But MP40 deals more damage and more accurate on medium range because of low recoil and good sight. Its also great gun for tap firing for longer because its 500 ROF. If you want fast paced, then get MGs, they are best at that.
They shred down IL2s because IL2’s speed is worse than IAR. So idk what do you mean by including this.
MG15 with 1200 ROF? Its literally a blitzkreig type weapon. People complain about smg being slow, while mgs are top tier fast. Use mgs if you like fast firing gun.
Forgot Panzerfaust that both side of Soviet vs Germany have? But I do say that GrB is best to grill KV 1 because they can’t defend themselves against that.
Well VG 1-5 is used by riflemen to terrorize soviets in BR 2-3
AVS and AVT have recoil issue which is why its automatic mode is shit unlike FG with scope that can shatter people at long range with its laser like recoil + perks mixed
You do know that the ingame stats are mostly wrong and testing range is also not a legit tool for comparison?
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i like your soviet main bias. please compare stats for all weapons here and tell me all the advantages germans have over soviets. also dont forget soviet body armor that gives 10% damage reduction.
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So you gonna tell me that FG42 is worse than AVT? Its literally op weapon for BR V like its a BR 2 lmg. AVT pretty much have higher recoil issue than FG 42 II.
Actual Recoil Stats (after edit):
AVT: 22/8 (Plus bayonet that reduces 5% recoil)
FG42/II: 44/8
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AVT= 15.3 damage on 10m, half vertical recoil of fg42 II, better dispersion
fg42 II= better recoil direction (so little more predictable horizontal recoil), if against soviets can take 2 bullets to kill cause of body armor
that is stock, it is 44/8(for max), but AVT has bayonet so it has further -5% recoil iirc.
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The AVTs problem is the recoil pattern not the recoil itself, FG-42 II has a nice line pattern making it easier to use full auto on all ranges, but the AVT is better in semi then the FG in semi.
Both guns have their own advantages currently, but the T-20 is the best of both worlds with no downsides (excluding the thick aperture sight).
Its time to give the FG its bayonet, infact give bayonets to all guns that had them because a ton of them are still missing one.
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do you know funny thing? AVS-36 has higher damage than AVT-40, same recoil direction as fg42 II (so same recoil pattern) with 35/10 recoil (vs fg42 II 44/8) and slightly better dispersion. not to mention AVS36 has lower ROF, so it is even more controllable than fg42 II. if people wanted better recoil pattern, they would choose AVS36 instead of AVT40.
agreed on both things.
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I would also point out that Mp40 is better because less ammo so you cant waste it as much as with PPS.
Also less rof so you wont be again wasting as much ammo.
Something something tactical gameplay because less ammo.
And obviously not only at mid-range is Mp40 better but at 100m MP40 deals 0.6 more dmg than pps.
I could now give some idiotic example of granting soviets better sniper scope & bayonet to justify KT2 and MKB42 to low tiers for GE.
But you probably wouldnt get the point so I wont.
Tanks, Planes, MGs, and Rifles for BR 1-3. OP tanks and guns like FG and MGs in BR V. Try the dual welding mg42 and mg34. You will love it when you start using tiger, and Panther series, Pz 3N and that dual welding mgs. Things I would 100% disregard is helmet and body armor as they are overexaggerated shit these days.
2 bullets? It takes 1 bullet to take out normal troops, and 2 for vitality perk boys. So you are just overexaggerating on “OP” body armor is with 10% reduction that does nothing.
Bayonet giving -5% recoil? Ok FG will be laser already if DF adds an update for it which will contradict your claim that FG have more recoil issues than AVT. But just look even FG without bayonet recoil is still good and controllable than AVS and a less harder to control on AVT.
Its just Soviet and Germany in general have weakness and strength. But look at american that is OP at everything. Even people use Bar lmg as mid range sniper. HVAR and tank spams like calliope. Even destroying M3 Lee with 75mm short canon is so hard.
Yeah MP40 is pretty good if you know how to use it
No need better sniper scopes and we have enough bayonet on everything
Actually … WHO is blind?
The behavior you wrote about are common in every team. Lots of newbies, lots of lazy people.
Equip this pile of trash and risk to face BR5? Only Leeroy Jenkins would do it…
I rather terrorize with my Mannlicher.
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Pz. III N: Only great when you fight BR1-2. BR3 can easily be hard and a slightly angled KV, Sherman, Lee or T34-76 and the 7rds of HEAT are gone fast and I know how to aim thanks to thousands of hours War Thunder. The Pz. III N is a great tank for sure, but developed to fight infantry and not tanks (still superior to the common BR1-2 tanks for sure and it is absolutely fun to face tougher tanks as challenge).
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MP40: One of my favorites for sure, but not as OP many people think specially when I think back to the old campaign system when I faced the soviet drum mag smg’s. The merge and BR2 gave the MP40 a second chance and the firearm is great, but the PPS-42 and PPS-43 is better in close combat, has next to identical handling and the damage isn’t bad too.
NO.
ABSOLUTELY NO.
MP38 dominates WHAT? PPSh-41 box, Thompsons, Type 100 (late), SIG 1920 and ZK-383 are the true heroes of BR3. The MG34 is great but not OP and defenitly not far superior compared to other MGs. Same goes to MG15 - I never played it but there are dozens of people who say that this gun is far inferior to soviet BR5 MG’s and Stingers.
The IAR is BR1 and absolutely not superior to BR3 planes. It is a FW190D-12 “lite” but other nations got very capable planes too, specially at BR3!
Kiraly needs to move to BR3/4 as perfect (and fun) counter for the PPSh box. This gun is lost in BR5.
The MP41r already is in the game as event gun. I own 4 of them, it is an absolutely fun weapon and BR3 is the right spot.
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Soviet mains are so delusional in their lies that they start believing that PPSh-41 is weaker than MG34 and MP40.
When I use my BR2 setup I often wish I could use the MP41r because this weapon is so fun! Every time I face BR3 and have the chance to pick up a PPSh box I feel lucky and happy. Brrrrrrrt.
I love this piece of Gulag cannon.
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love the soviet main bias. for low BR t50, t34, kv1 are obviously useless tanks, planes are pretty much equal, only noobs use MG in low BR (except for people using BAR), also what rifles do the germans have that are better than soviets? BA are pretty equal, svt-38 is pretty much comparable with g41 and only difference is shitty armaguerra on BR2 for germans (much better to actually have BA than armaguerra). also most useful guns for clearing caps are obviously in soviet favor (pps42, 43 and ppsh41)
only thing i agree is that germans have best tanks in the game, but they are vulnerable to soviet tanks (unless you are just going to base every matchup as KT vs every other soviet tank). AVS36 has same or better stats than fg42 II (including recoil pattern) with 5 rounds less in magazine but is able to one shot. also it is kinda funny that you claim that germany has best MG in BR V, when soviets have RD-44 which is basically AR with 100 rounds magazine. also almost nobody is using MG 15, nor MG 42 nor MG 34 in BR5 match, but there are lot of people using RD-44.
oh really? look at performance of russian SF rifles
look at performance of fg42 II against vitality
and now look at performance of fg42 II against vitality+armor
totally means nothing, specially cause most of the fights happen within 50 meters.
nice dodging that AVT has half vertical recoil of FG42 II. btw if you want same recoil pattern like FG42 II with 3/4 of vertical recoil per bullet of FG42 II, soviets can always use AVS 36. cause it has 170 rof less than fg42 II, then total recoil will be 60% of fg42 II when shooting in full auto.
So what did I told you about the German Community Toxic same as the soviets if we let the game in Soviet and German hand it will be endless balance whining absolute barbarians thank god there is more civilized communities like Japan,US,UK and Italy … Germany and USSR are just barbarians … 
Well I restarted playing Germany again and got on BR 2, I really expect tankers to stop being blind. However, they still are to this day. What a joke that there is T28E in front of their eyes, but they do no shit. Its same behavior like war thunder german mains lmfao
Well bunch of people got many spare mouse and fingers to spam VG 1-5 and hit headshot with 2 rounds with helmet.
Well people will minimum skill uses HEAT for KVs and Shermans only and use other rounds for rest. Yeah it is known to fight infantry but it can fight tanks too well too.
Try using MP 38 or MP40 at good distance and you will see that PPSH-41 Box sucks sometimes because the ammo runs dry quickly while you can hold up fight for longer before reload.
MG34 is the ideal MGs with good ROF, low recoil, and do the killing job at distance well. Try mixing it with MG42 and you will be OP guy.
MG15 is good for low range combat because of 1200 ROF, but not very versatile.
FW190 D-12 is BR 5, what are you on even? IAR is superior for BR 1-3 at a max because BR 3 fighters don’t even have a bomb.
Replace it with MP41R and makes Germany more challenging
Keep crying and ranting on wrong faction to call “OP” lmfao