Pz III N vs PZ IV E or F1

Ppl are a bit confused about the pz3N

  • Legacy Stalingrad version: half n half HEAT and Anti tank rounds. Does not ONLY have HEAT. Does not have side skirts… but they don’t do much anyway. In fact it’s an advantage as it makes the vehicle les easily recognized.

  • Tech Tree version: ONLY 7 HEAT shells! Rest are HE and anti tank. Got side skirts.

I use the legacy version. More HEAT is a no brainer, as against br3 vehicles, normal anti tank shells from this short barrel tank, have “meh” penetration values.

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Not as an F2P you are locked for only 1 tank or plane total.

Is there a way to still get that one ? When i play the PZ III N i have the low amount of HEAT shells whats keep it from being stupidly OP for BR II

Sadly, there isn’t. It came with the Stalingrad access if I remember well.

As for being op… it’s a misconception. Big t28E is just as dangerous, perhaps even more (3 lmgs firing at the same time. 3!!!. Supported with HE, it’s the ultimate anti infantry machine.) Or the Scott for Usa. Or old pz4 with short barrel.

Pz3N is fantastic for br2. But facing br3, it quickly gets put in it’s place, like the other tanks I mentioned.

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No, the legacy version is no longer available (pre merge exclusive) anymore just like the panzer IV E with HEAT (pre merge premium).
The only thing still obtainable vehicles with HEAT for germany are the 7 rounds for the TT Pz III N and the Stug A which is premium and has half HEAT half APHE.

Guess i will use the TT one then & be conservative with that 7 HEAT i got in it and not use it on infantry unless i must.

I havent tried the T28E for Soviets yet, but i wasnt fan of the Scott for USA, that open turret is pretty big of a dissadventage.

This…Im suprised that this one isnt as common as the Panzer IIIN…its also very dangerous, and german tanks are squishy targets. Doesnt have a problem at all with BR 3 tanks.

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I’m not sure to be honest…

Maybe the player mindset differs depending on the faction played? Axis do looove their tanks. A bit like allies.

Meanwhile I see a bit less with Soviets and Japan. Japan I understand. they are notoriously bad. Soviets thought… Maybe players choosing that faction do so for their small arms? they do have the best. They might simply use smgs and stuff than they do vehicles…

A theory anyway. Because Sovs got fantastic tanks in each BR (t60 just to be Chad, t28E, KV OR t34, t34-85, IS2 1944…) And I’m not talking about their fantastic planes…

T28E has no disadvantage. closed. mobile. better armour. decent shells. THREE mgs.
Be careful thought!!! the t28 you want is in folder! be sure the pick the “E” version. first one use weaker shrapnell rounds and has less armour.

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Typical soviet bias. They are getting modern tank before anybody else

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Woops :rofl::joy:
Fixed :sweat_smile:

The best Panzer for low BR is the Panzer III J. It has the powerful 50mm Kwk 39 cannon which has the highest armor pen for all low BR vehicles at 81-106mm. All the short barrel 75mm struggle against even the most basic forms of enemy armor.

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BR II im pretty sure why the soviets arent going for tanks … my 1 machine slot will go to the IL-2, the cool loking soviet armor only starts on BR III with the T-34s and KV-1.

Isnt that Panzer III M premium better for anti-tank role than ? That even has the add-on armor like the PZ III N

There’s a reason why: pps42 & 43. Those are the best br2 smgs, all factions included. They rival even top br3 axis smgs.

So most Soviets players will spam them instead of tanks. And the IL… eheheh yeah it’s powerful. I love the SB thought. 6x 100kg will make everything vanish.

Correct. It has a very similar canon to the puma. But the survivability of the 3N. Turret is also better protected. I love it and use it currently. It’s meh against infantry thought, not much HE filler in 50mm

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Outside the game, the Pz 3N was built because the Pz3 was obsolete in an anti-tank role - the 5cm KWK 39 was inadequate for anti-tank work and carried too little HE for good anti-infantry support.

The turret was too small to put the 7.5cm KWK40 into it, and so fitting the 7.5cm KWK 37 was done to at least give it some infantry support capability. However by the time that was done there was little need for such a vehicle - Stugs, Pz 4’s and Panthers all carried 7.5cm guns that were good AT weapons as well as having decent HE capabilities. So only 700 or so Pz3N’s were built - some of htem being refitted earlier version.

By the end of the war Pz-3 hulls had mostly been converted to Stugs, ammo carriers, recovery vehicles, etc.

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I dont know, that BSA Thompson i just picked up recently feels like the best BR II SMG, but i might be just biased, the russian ones are also pretty good too. But their LMG is awfull , and both the M1 and the Lee Enfield feels better than what the russian rifleman can pick from, but not by much tbh.

So in the end i feel like for them spamming double assault squads , 1 engineer & a bomber seem to be the good stuff for F2P.

Ah, isn’t BSA a gold order one? I never count gold order or premium things when comparing things.

Because if events, gold orders and premiums are included… Soviets still dominate with smgs! Thanks to this:
450px-PPK42-museum
My toad men wade through enemies like a plow truck through snow.

Allies get the .30 Tommy which is simply fantastic (but I don’t remember if br2 or 3) and the premium marine squad at br2 with grip tommy gun, best tommy gun by far… but with a small 20 rounds magazine.

There’s not much difference at br2 with premiums/events for axis & Japan when considering smgs. :thinking:

Yeah i got my BSA Thompson from the BP & i got one more ticket from the event too like that, im not sure yet if i want to pick up another one of that … or maybe the RPK 1943 so that my MG on the Soviet Assault squad will have something decent.

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I got one of those for fun… And don’t regret it. Surprisingly good and more importantly fun to use, for a lil br2 mg!

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