Punish Quitters with serious punishment

[VonuhLikesCake]

At the end of the day the grind is the most toxic aspect of this game. It’s the main reason people leave matches (aside from modes they may not like).

If you want to level up you need to basically play like the sweatiest douchebag you can possibly be and rack up as much XP as possible. People are not going to finish matches that they are clearly loosing when they can just find a new match in a few seconds that could be more balanced or a steamroll in their favor. Why finish a lost match with 200 kills when you can instead leave, and find a new match that you will win with 200 kills.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@DNAmodsNP

you can disagree all you want, doesn’t change the fact the behavior of abandoning the teams consistently without repercussions is the real toxicity as seen by people like me who see those people are toxic cowards acting like spoiled brats that only want wins

Its game, games are supposed to be fun.
If ive got to carry a team that is less useful to outcome of the game than 200L trashbag full of rubberdicks.
Yeah im going to leave.

Conquest ? Yeah fk that shit.

Solo against sweatty USSR national team ? Might build few AA’s and leave once its no longer fun.

@DNAmodsNP

punishment would simply be the correct enforcement to discourage that toxicity

No it wont, if I get banhammer for 5mins ? For leaving the game its still at best 20mins less than suffering with total scrub team.

Maybe 10 ? 15 ? 20 mins ? Fine il just play something else then.

@DNAmodsNP

bad sportsmanship requires that you participate, if you just run away from the fight, that is lower than bad sportsmanship, it’s plain cowardice & total selfishness

I dont really feel like ive got any obligations to stay in team that is either full of bots or players less useful than bots.
Ive got nothing to win or lose.

@DNAmodsNP

bad sportsmanship is something someone does in the game, but they play the game, and they do it to the opponent. This is hurting your own team mates, which is far more serious as it not only hurts the team mates, it hurts the game and in the end ruins it for the other team, it’s total toxicity culture infestation in this game and it has to stop

We have asked for proper matchmake about as long as the game has been released.
a) We have also asked some sort of skill / elo / level / what ever based matchmake so we dont get team of lvl 3’s against enemy team of max levels.
b) We have asked a way to select game modes / maps we want to play in matchmake.

We have asked buffs / nerfs / balance / what ever to make the game more appealing

Dont recall any of those requests being fulfilled.
You can blame the developers for creating a game that “allows” toxicity and to some extend even promotes it.

[DNAmodsNP]

@TUSUPOLISI69

We have asked for proper matchmake about as long as the game has been released.
a) We have also asked some sort of skill / elo / level / what ever based matchmake so we dont get team of lvl 3’s against enemy team of max levels.
b) We have asked a way to select game modes / maps we want to play in matchmake.

We have asked buffs / nerfs / balance / what ever to make the game more appealing

Dont recall any of those requests being fulfilled.
You can blame the developers for creating a game that “allows” toxicity and to some extend even promotes it.

I believe the pathetic culture in this game would still happen even if they implemented all that

Because the problem is that players only want to play games where they win, so they openly admit to quitting when things are tough. Bunch of weak minded people playing this game

Which is why the punishment for quitting has to be tough enough to change that weak mind set

The players blame everything and anything else, but none will take responsibility for their own actions that are the only real problem here in this topic.

My last match had 6 people quit, while I finished first and remained for the loss. If I also leave, then the others left over will probably also want to quit. So what ? We play a game where people rather quit than fight? Nobody ever considers fighting to turn things around?

That is such a weak culture and mindset to have.

I am disgusted at this attitude these players have, and so I want to see them severely punished, and we should be well rewarded for sticking it out.

Take their points and give it to us, and make them suffer a penalty for their next 3 matches. Something to make them stop

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@DNAmodsNP

I believe the pathetic culture in this game would still happen even if they implemented all that

Sure, but most likely would decrease it rather significantly.

@DNAmodsNP

Because the problem is that players only want to play games where they win, so they openly admit to quitting when things are tough. Bunch of weak minded people playing this game

I dont mind losing in fair game.
Losing due to having entire team of useless analplugs, no thanks.

@DNAmodsNP

Which is why the punishment for quitting has to be tough enough to change that weak mind set

Sure, we just dont play then.

@DNAmodsNP

The players blame everything and anything else, but none will take responsibility for their own actions that are the only real problem here in this topic.

Well, you can have the moral high ground for all I care while wasting 25mins of your life.
I value my time more than wasting 25mins of my life in game that supposed to be fun.

@DNAmodsNP

My last match had 6 people quit, while I finished first and remained for the loss. If I also leave, then the others left over will probably also want to quit. So what ? We play a game where people rather quit than fight? Nobody ever considers fighting to turn things around?

Here, have this iron ass medal.

Thats all your going to get for your suffering.

@DNAmodsNP

That is such a weak culture and mindset to have.

It is “fun” game not competive in any manner.

@DNAmodsNP

I am disgusted at this attitude these players have, and so I want to see them severely punished, and we should be well rewarded for sticking it out.

Fine for me, eventually your going to play alone since everyone else is temporarily banned.

@DNAmodsNP

Take their points and give it to us, and make them suffer a penalty for their next 3 matches. Something to make them stop

Yeah good luck Don Quijote.

[DNAmodsNP]

@TUSUPOLISI69

Well, you can have the moral high ground for all I care while wasting 25mins of your life.
I value my time more than wasting 25mins of my life in game that supposed to be fun.

You make the mistake of assuming that is a waste of time for me. I do not see it that way. I learn more from losing than I do from winning. And that is what these quitters don’t get. They need to lose to learn to win. But if they just quit, no chance of that.

@TUSUPOLISI69

It is “fun” game not competive in any manner.

If you truly believed this, then why would you quit the game? Clearly you do care about winning and competition, and if you can only have fun while winning, then you have a lot to learn about gaming and beyond. But I understand, you only want to have fun winning, and that’s fine by me.

But if you want to hurt other peoples gaming experience with your quitting, then there must be consequences. Just like in the game, if you play badly, you don’t get as many rewards. The game just doesn’t do enough to really push quitters to either man up, or quit permanently.

And we simply have to make that final push to clean up the game of this nonsense culture.

@TUSUPOLISI69

Fine for me, eventually your going to play alone since everyone else is temporarily banned

Fine by me too, except I won’t be alone, the left over players will be players who will want to play and not quit. The quitters will be gone, and the game will be so much better for it.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@DNAmodsNP

You make the mistake of assuming that is a waste of time for me. I do not see it that way. I learn more from losing than I do from winning. And that is what these quitters don’t get. They need to lose to learn to win. But if they just quit, no chance of that.

Judging the responses to topic id say for quite alot of people it is waste of time.

And no, Mike Tyson could beat me in coma 600 times and I still wouldnt be a boxer.
I would just get brain damage, almost as severe as from pointless games.

@DNAmodsNP

But if you want to hurt other peoples gaming experience with your quitting

Arent that exactly what you are asking here ?

@DNAmodsNP

And we simply have to make that final push to clean up the game of this nonsense culture.

You might as well play singleplayer then.

@DNAmodsNP

Fine by me too, except I won’t be alone, the left over players will be players who will want to play and not quit. The quitters will be gone, and the game will be so much better for it.

Yeah, do a little count again how many is in favor of your suggestion and how many is against it.

[DNAmodsNP]

@TUSUPOLISI69

And no, Mike Tyson could beat me in coma 600 times and I still wouldnt be a boxer.
I would just get brain damage, almost as severe as from pointless games.

If it’s pointless, why do you care about losing?

if you want to use boxing as a comparison, quitters are the equivalent of a guy stepping into the ring only when he knows he can win, and never stepping into it when he believes he could lose to his opponent.

That is how pathetic these losers are.

They don’t want to challenge themselves like a real warrior. They want an easy win.

@TUSUPOLISI69

Arent that exactly what you are asking here ?

I rather preserve the game and the players who remain. As hurting just a couple of losers and quitters is not as bad as what they do the others who remain that are more numerous. So yes, punish the few weak losers, and reward the committed players.

@TUSUPOLISI69

You might as well play singleplayer then

Could tell you the same thing, if you only want to win, go play a game on easy mode with cheats, since that is the kind of people you are.

@TUSUPOLISI69

Yeah, do a little count again how many is in favor of your suggestion and how many is against it.

Most the decent gamers don’t bother commenting on here.

But I promise you every time players quit out of a match, there are more left over than there are quitters, but lately there are too many, but still not the majority. However as this pathetic culture continues to grow, it will ruin the game and already more players are following these losers, because they destroy entire matches at a time. Especially if they are in a group of 3-4 and they all leave together at the same time.

Besides, like it has already been stated, majority or not, makes no difference.

The core issue is still there and no other suggestion can address it.

If players do not respond to rewards, they must face punishment, or missing out on rewards

It’s the only way.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@DNAmodsNP

If it’s pointless, why do you care about losing?

Perhaps because id rather not have brain damage ?

@DNAmodsNP

if you want to use boxing as a comparison, quitters are the equivalent of a guy stepping into the ring only when he knows he can win, and never stepping into it when he believes he could lose to his opponent.

Dont really care.
Fair share have pointed out that they will quit from pointless games.

@DNAmodsNP

That is how pathetic these losers are.

Dont really care, at the end of day winning is this game is like winning retards olympics.
You won but your still retarded.

@DNAmodsNP

They don’t want to challenge themselves like a real warrior. They want an easy win.

And no one cares.

@DNAmodsNP

I rather preserve the game and the players who remain.

Which is you alone.

@DNAmodsNP

As hurting just a couple of losers and quitters is not as bad as what they do the others who remain that are more numerous. So yes, punish the few weak losers, and reward the committed players.

Again, do a little counting how many iron ass warriors there is in this exact topic and how many rather quit than waste theyr precious time.

@DNAmodsNP

Could tell you the same thing, if you only want to win, go play a game on easy mode with cheats, since that is the kind of people you are.

Im not the one suggesting punishments for others.
Rather have a matchmake that connects like minded players.

@DNAmodsNP

Most the decent gamers don’t bother commenting on here.

So most players dont take this game seriously enough to care to read forums.

@DNAmodsNP

But I promise you every time players quit out of a match, there are more left over than there are quitters, but lately there are too many, but still not the majority.

Exactly the ones that dont give a fk about the game.
And camps the entire game rather than play the objective which are the reason why any sane obj player would quit.

@DNAmodsNP

However as this pathetic culture continues to grow, it will ruin the game and already more players are following these losers, because they destroy entire matches at a time. Especially if they are in a group of 3-4 and they all leave together at the same time.

As much as your camppers are ruining my game experience, the exactly the same ones that your so much defending in your other topic.
Yet im not asking them to be banned.
But rather have a matchmake where they would be connected with other camppers.

@DNAmodsNP

Besides, like it has already been stated, majority or not, makes no difference.

Well it does. Its the current playerbase or you alone. Guess which devs choose?

@DNAmodsNP

The core issue is still there and no other suggestion can address it.

Better matchmake.

@DNAmodsNP

If players do not respond to rewards, they must face punishment, or missing out on rewards

Well lets put it this way, each player dont have cap points and too few deaths should also be banned.
As your precious camppers are ruining my game experience.
Then we can discuss about banning quitters.

@DNAmodsNP

It’s the only way.

Just stick to singleplayers.

[DNAmodsNP]

@TUSUPOLISI69

Rather have a matchmake that connects like minded players.

You got it already, when you get matched in this game and your team is winning and has the player quality and numbers advantage, the other team rage quits.

When it happens to you, you rage quit.

You already have everything you could ever want. As pathetic as that is.

@TUSUPOLISI69

And camps the entire game rather than play the objective which are the reason why any sane obj player would quit

The battlefield changes, some players go through their squads at different times in the game and the situation calls for different things.

Sometimes you have to wait until the bombing runs, the shelling, the mortars and artillery have cleared the way before charging in. This requires knowledge of the game and knowing when to move forward and takes risks.

If you run out there and get slaughtered 2 times in a row, and then blame your team mates because you ran in at the wrong time and then rage quit, that is not you team mates fault, you are the one who made bad decisions and now blame your team for that.

because you expected your team mates to do all the killing for you so you could run in easily and get easy kills because your team is better than the other team. So everytime this doesn’t happen you rage quit like a spoiled immature child and use pathetic excuses to justify it.

When in reality if the quitters engaged their brains and stayed with the match, they could work out how to deal with the problems and create a better match for everyone, an actual challenge.

Most of you quitters just don’t want a challenge. You want to blitz rush and win every match with the best team. Because you don’t care about a challenge, you just want xp. You are addicted to xp and levelling and unlocking new things and progressing fast.

Which means you are willing to hurt the enjoyment of the actual matches for that.

Which means you are the toxic problem in the game itself.

You want solutions to a problem where you are the problem and only you can change that so that you can stop being the toxic one in the game.

If players like you didn’t cause this to be a serious problem in the game. I would never had bothered to come on here to make this suggestion.

@TUSUPOLISI69

But rather have a matchmake where they would be connected with other camppers.

You first assumption that is wrong is that I stand with campers only, that is false.

The other is that you assume I want to ban players, no, that is also wrong. I want players to have rewards and reduced rewards to encourage better gaming. While punishing quitters who ruin the matches also.

The people who cry against campers are usually the worst offenders. I see them complain about campers and then they proceed to camp with their tanks for hundreds of kills. It’s hilarious.

@TUSUPOLISI69

Well it does. Its the current playerbase or you alone. Guess which devs choose?

I’m not alone. The majority of players are not quitters. The quitters are the minority. But they are the loud mouths and the ones who cry and complain the most. So the devs are bombarded with their childish behaviors.

@TUSUPOLISI69

As your precious camppers are ruining my game experience.

Campers are the ones who allow for you to have your gaming experience. Without those, you would not get the objective. And the reason you rage quit, is because the elite campers are not on your team, so you get smashed, so you rage quit like a baby, because you know nobody is going to make it an easy match for you.

@TUSUPOLISI69

Just stick to singleplayers.

You should do that, because then you can always win, and never quit and blame others for your reasons for being a quitter

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@DNAmodsNP

You got it already, when you get matched in this game and your team is winning and has the player quality and numbers advantage, the other team rage quits.

If I get a good team and enemy team is full of beginners or bots.
THe matchmake doesnt work.

@DNAmodsNP

You already have everything you could ever want. As pathetic as that is.

Well I still lack the functioning matchmaker.

@DNAmodsNP

I’m not alone.

But for some odd reason none of your supporters are here at forums ? And infact I dont recall ever anyone else suggesting something stupid as this topic.

@DNAmodsNP

Campers are the ones who allow for you to have your gaming experience. Without those, you would not get the objective.

Nah, I cant really cap point from spawn. For some odd reason everyone except you knows that.

@DNAmodsNP

And the reason you rage quit, is because the elite campers are not on your team, so you get smashed, so you rage quit like a baby, because you know nobody is going to make it an easy match for you.

Id love to play against your elite camppers with elite rushers.
Unfortunately I always keep getting those useless analplug camppers.

@DNAmodsNP

You should do that, because then you can always win, and never quit and blame others for your reasons for being a quitter

You really are alone in here, atleast in singleplayer you would have someone supporting your ideas.

[DNAmodsNP]

@TUSUPOLISI69

If I get a good team and enemy team is full of beginners or bots.
THe matchmake doesnt work.

Why do you care? You only care when you lose.

When you are winning you stop caring.

Exposing how you do not care about the state of the game.

Even if the matchmaker matched you up with only people at your elite quitter level, as soon as one team started to win, the other team of players like you would rage quit

So you seen, the problem isn’t the matchmaker, quitters like you are the problem.

@TUSUPOLISI69

But for some odd reason none of your supporters are here at forums ?

I don’t need supporters, I am not someone who thinks they need social support to validate my intelligence. What I have stated and suggested is still valid, even if every single moron on earth was against me. Because I’m not a drone who thinks he needs validation from others.

However, when you rage quit a match, and you are the only one rage quitting, and then your team ends up winning and you were the only rage quitter because you made an early pathetic judgement call, and we ended up having a great match and winning without you. You can rest assured, that you are in fact alone in that quitter mentality.

My reason for being on here is to highlight how pathetic that is, and how we should address it so you don’t spread that toxic mentality to more people.

As that has increased and has done damage to the game, which means no level of matchmaking could ever recover that. Instead only my suggestions and suggestions like it can help bring that back, so that then the matchmaking changes could be implemented and not be done so in vain.

@TUSUPOLISI69

Id love to play against your elite camppers with elite rushers.
Unfortunately I always keep getting those useless analplug camppers.

A match is not won simply with only one or the other. Usually it takes a combination of each.

I am not here to say there are no poor campers, so again you have jumped to a dumb conclusion and presumed falsely.

And of course, if one team only camps, and they do not address the objective, they lose the objective. However, elite rushers can be turned into trash rushers by a team that isn’t elite. Whereas an elite camper is rarely turned to trash by non elites, because only a surgical strike and a concentrated and focused attack can remove them. Elite campers usually finish top of their team because they get more xp and have more kills and dominate the battlefield.

Elite campers are also elite rushers, and elite rushers are also elite campers. They are just elite players. They are both and the same. Not many people who are the elites of every match do only one thing at the elite level.

You might hate the poor campers, but you do not hate the elite campers, because most of you are the same. What you hate is bad players. But you don’t want to help them become better players like my suggestions would do. You want them to remain dumb and bad, so you can easily kill them and win easily. You just hate it when they are on your team

You want your entire team to rush the point? I’ve seen it happen, they all get mowed down.

I am willing to bet you would still rage quit that match, the only thing you care about is whether you are winning. As soon as you are all getting mowed down, you quit. I see it all the time.

@TUSUPOLISI69

atleast in singleplayer you would have someone supporting your ideas

I do not need support in my ideas to know they are better than the alternative and that you are mistaken on all counts of your poorly made arguments

[Curst]

Yes, this is a big problem, and it’s been running for so long that people have built an entire culture around it. “Fixing” the excuses they use for leaving won’t do anything, gently motivating people to stay won’t do anything.

We’re at a stage where most people have built a habit of quitting and will teach every new player to do the same, even if it harms them (because it already does). They’ll just get cognitive dissonance and keep doing it. Now only harsh measures like low priority matchmaking for quitters will change this.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@DNAmodsNP

Why do you care? You only care when you lose.

Dont really think I ever said that, quite clearly pointed out that for example when im in the game carrying useless analplugs that pretends to be useful while campping and doing absolutely nothing, yeah I rather leave than waste my time.

@DNAmodsNP

When you are winning you stop caring.

Yes, thats exactly the reason why we are asking for matchmake that would match equal players against each other.
Because we only want to win.

@DNAmodsNP

Exposing how you do not care about the state of the game.

True, which is why im heavily against your absolutely retarded suggestion.

@DNAmodsNP

Even if the matchmaker matched you up with only people at your elite quitter level, as soon as one team started to win, the other team of players like you would rage quit

Why the fk we would ask for matchmake then ?

@DNAmodsNP

So you seen, the problem isn’t the matchmaker, quitters like you are the problem.

Which would be easily fixed by matchmake.
Quitters like me would be matched against other skilled players and useless camppers like you would be matched with bots or something equally useless.
We wouldnt ever meet each other on the field.

@DNAmodsNP

I don’t need supporters, I am not someone who thinks they need social support to validate my intelligence.

Theres something oddly fun when you speak of thinking & intelligence.

@DNAmodsNP

What I have stated and suggested is still valid

Which is why singleplayer suits just fine for you.

@DNAmodsNP

However, when you rage quit a match, and you are the only one rage quitting, and then your team ends up winning and you were the only rage quitter because you made an early pathetic judgement call

Quite sure being hit by asteroid is more probably than your scenario.
So I didnt really lose anything.

@DNAmodsNP

You can rest assured, that you are in fact alone in that quitter mentality.

Quite many have shared the same mentality in this topic.

@DNAmodsNP

My reason for being on here is to highlight how pathetic that is

Well if some random campper thinks its pathetic, then I shall definitely waste my time on games with him.

@DNAmodsNP

and how we should address it so you don’t spread that toxic mentality to more people.

Yeah, matchmake will solve it. Skilled people gets matched with skilled people and you play with bots.
Quite fking simple isnt it ?

@DNAmodsNP

As that has increased and has done damage to the game, which means no level of matchmaking could ever recover that.

AAAAAAAND again, matchmake.

@DNAmodsNP

Instead only my suggestions and suggestions like it can help bring that back

Yeah, singleplayer. Do what ever you want.

@DNAmodsNP

I am willing to bet you would still rage quit that match

Ive had more intellectual conversations with rocks of mountain so pardon me that I didnt bother to read your rant.

@DNAmodsNP

I do not need support in my ideas to know they are better than the alternative and that you are mistaken on all counts of your poorly made arguments

Yeah, no one else knows anything about the game except you.
Good luck in life cupcake.

[DNAmodsNP]

@TUSUPOLISI69

Dont really think I ever said that, quite clearly pointed out that for example when im in the game carrying useless analplugs that pretends to be useful while campping and doing absolutely nothing, yeah I rather leave than waste my time.

What happens when the matchmaker puts you against other elite quitters like you

If your team of elite quitters start feeling like you are losing, you rage quit

If their team of elite quitters start feeling like they are losing, they quit

because you are elitist quitters, it’s hilarious, a self admitted pathetic quitter calling me a cupcake in life

[zombiekillerr97]

Just add a 1 week ban on 3 quits, then if the issue persists after they come back then 3 quits then 2 week ban, 3 more after then 3 week ban, and if they absolutely insist on quitting 3 more times then permenant ban problem solved.

Just make it so each ban is recorded and tracks for as long as a full year, then if by then a full year passes without incident then all the bans are stricken from the record and clean slate as if you haven’t got your first punishment yet then rinse repeat for the whole system from the beginning.

Then again they would have already got the hint to stop quitting after waiting a full week for the temporary ban to lift just to fet another 2 weeks ban in less then 30 minutes worth of games.

[olek_z17]

No.
Introduce the matchmaker first, see if it works and tune it to work properly and only then you should start considering punishing deserters.

[Cleetus_WA]

Your idea is laughable to me.

As an example, last night… I joined a match and was spawned in to confrontation with the first point already being capped by the other team. So the whole time that it was locked had passed. Team is down to about 900 tickets. I spawn far from the point in this scenario. No rallies. I do my best and by the time our second point is lost, I lead the team by a wide margin but, honestly, I think every other player on my team was a bot. Zero percent chance to win. Zero battle. Zero fun. I bailed. If I had bothered to try two more matches and they came up like that I’d bail again. Ban me? I’ll simply uninstall and there’s your problem. The game needs MORE players. They need to solve problems that make people desert rather than punish us for not tolerating BS. I don’t mind losing but if the entire process adds NOTHING to my life in terms of enjoyment then why would I stay? One person can’t beat a solid massively loaded opponent.

[TARD-Spetsnaz]

Me and my friends will never play conquest. Boosters on these modes are wasted, and u get 9k xp, on 200% XP boost. its dumb. game mode is dumb as well and boring, you just hold points and cap and recap nonstop. I care about XP alot, i like all other gamemodes, they give good xp. just not Conquest. XP is almost non existent

there are maps that last forever , Cave Map on Tunisia can last for 4 hours. Check posts on this. if you dont know about this u dont care about the game

unwinnable matches, some matches are unwinnable, i was high rank, with 3 of my level 1 friends vs, 10 Marshals. we got slaughtered, why should we be forced to stay in this match to suffer?

if i see my team is full of bots and no real players, im 100% leaving. its a waste of time.

Joining a late match, again unwinnable if enemy team is good, spawn with 850 lives left, and 1st point already taken? by the time i reach point. 2nd point taken. WTF? and OP want to punish ppl for leaving really?

i play this game to play fun, not sweats 9/10

we already get punish for leaving for lowering ranks. as well as reduce in XP. u realize we already get penalized and wasted time. we cant even pick gamemodes. i will never play conquest. its the worst mode in game and a waste of my time

[DNAmodsNP]

all this time later and still the same people rage quitting when matches don’t go their way

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what a bunch of weaklings

you don’t have an argument when you are this cowardly lol

[Serpiko82]

Fun fact:

No amount of your tears can prevent anyone from quitting whenever they like.